NCT REPORT: FAIL DANGEROUS

I do take tyres and wet grip seriously and had 2 new ones on at €150 each within an hour of the one failing on the NCT, and did not think the one that failed was below the limit - and definitely was not dangerous in my book. I have no intention of killing myself or anybody else.

I’m comfortable with my decisions regarding tyres and insurance and shall not go further down that.

I’m complaining of the official “Oirish” solution. There were 4000 fail dangerous in 2014, which went up to 133,000 in 2024 after the law and NCT changed in 2018. The NCT require that these 133,000 are trailered away from the NCT centre as they have designated them to be dangerous and unsafe to drive.

But the authorities know that this is not happening, and turn a blind eye - so the NCT, RSA, Guards all know that people are generally driving these 133,000 cars home and maybe for a few weeks until most are fixed and retested.

This is what I mean by an “Oirish” solution which is in my opinion two-faced and dishonest.

If they really believe these 133,000 are dangerous then they should enforce it and prevent them been driven. But they are attempting to ride two horses - let the NCT designate lots of cars as dangerous as per the NCT manual, but then do nothing about it and let them drive home as normal, contra to the NCT manual.

Alternatively, most of these 133,000 must not be genuinely dangerous which is what I believe, though they still need to be fixed.

Ok, cannot comment much without the details you are teasing about, so I’ll retain my existing opinions. I’m still pretty sure about the law regarding the NCT not being invalidated by a fail while still in date. The other poster resorting to my “stupid question” and my “pointless nonsense” helps confirm this for me.

It’s a fairly widespread thing probably affecting 400,000 people per year - assuming half the people who fail had booked their NCT in advance, so hope none of them get points.

I don’t agree with your drunk driving and other comparisons. I was not stopped by the guards and had my new tyres and new NCT within the hour. Besides, I doubt if the examples above are very good at getting off - so I’d like to do better. (You can advise!)

I was originally just giving my experience of a fail dangerous to the OP who inquired, and then dug a little deeper partially in response to questions.

And my summary advice to the OP or similar is:- say nothing to the NCT, consult your own mechanic if possible - and that most people drive off, but stay below the radar and don’t get caught - and then get it fixed as soon as possible.

If stopped, say the minimum, have details of bookings/advice from mechanic and retest, humbly listen to the lecture and don’t accept points if you have a cert.

RTFM indeed 😃 you missed the ''advised'' and ''inform'' part..

A little bit of common sense and better judgement on your behalf would get your car rectified of the dangerous defect in the NCT car park without the need to drive it on the public road . Ask the NCT if they have any issue with you doing so , because they certainly do not.

Sorry I'm not going to get into that all that. I'm not a solicitor and I'm not here to give legal advice or information.

All I'll say is that I have successfully prosecuted people for no valid NCT in that scenario.

If people don't want to believe it or won't accept it than fair enough, I'm not here to argue, I get enough of that already in the job!

Especially given that he recognised that they were questionable but couldn’t be arsed dealing with it until someone else had pronounced on the matter. I’d say that is perfect evidence of not taking it seriously!

it suggests that he is anything but cautious. Merely penny pinching.i would never let them go below 2.5 or so.