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Will ‘the monk’ do it this time 🤔

  • 28-02-2026 09:26AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭


    Currently it would seem he is in with a good shout…..plenty of publicity, a play running about his life that is sold out apparently ( researched and written by Gerry’s Ryan’s young lad Rex), he’s out on X urging people to register, seems to be saying all the right stuff about the current TD’s / ‘gubbermint’, is he the beacon for ‘change’ that the country needs……🤔



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Not in a bye-election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭JVince


    Zero chance.

    He was a novelty last time.

    That novelty has gone.

    He's now the criminal dodgy figure he is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    Zero chance in a by-election



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Don’t think any of the current TD’s would have a track record like this total ‘w@nker’ …..nauseating that there are some that think he would be a worthy TD…..writing plays about him and lauding him for his ‘intelligence’ just glorifies him and the gangs he ‘ring leads’…..🤔

    A lot of similarities with that other lovely cuddly character from the 80’s/90’s ie the ‘General’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    He is not a dodgy criminal, he is a cleanskin. He is a criminal within the law.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    He might, but it all depends on what kind of turnout there is on the day and what they are turning out for.

    He seems to largely represent a very "local" demographic of people who've lived in the area for a long time, who probably voted independent or various left groups for years, but who are at odds with those parties over perceived distance on social issues. However there's a large contingent of better off middle class voters in the constituency also who offset this.

    In the last few elections the left vote swung SF/SD/Green and then Labour. The contingent who traditionally voted Maureen O Sullivan is well and truly captured by both SF and SD now. There's also a modest Labour vote. The FF vote was definitely captured by FG in the past, and the bulk of FF transfers went to FG in 2024 but a significant number went nowhere.

    Impossible to accurately predict where FG transfers go as you have to look back to 2002 to see a weak FG candidate with no running mate going out earlier in the election, and the constituency has changed since. Depends a lot on what kind of candidate FF picks for the area. John Stephens is likely, doesn't seem to be any alternative.

    FG tip is Ray McAdam but I could see Gayle Ralph or Colm O Rourke looking to put their hats in the ring also. I wouldn't assume McAdam is the pick there, though he's a very solid candidate. Stephens is aligning himself to Bertie, and there's certainly a number of old Bertie people still in the area (a few work in TUD and ruffled feathers on the board there recently) but an outright appeal to Bertie voters of the past might alienate others. The problem for FF is the Bertie history, and the problem for FG is potential infighting if there is a pitchfork battle for the nomination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭thenuisance


    By-elections are different animals - the quota is 50% of the valid vote +1. Dublin Central is a 4 seater - in the general election the quota was 25% +1 - 6551 votes - Gerry Hutch got 5321, Marie Sherlock, who got the seat had 6102 - so neither reached the quota but Sherlock had a good few more votes than Hutch.

    STV voting boils down to your core vote plus the votes that you get from people who really would have liked someone else but find you the least unacceptable remaining candidate. If you're a 'marmite' candidate you're going to narrow the electorate that will find you 'least unacceptable'.

    In by-elections it's not unusual to meet the quota - Bacik didn't in 2021, none of the successful candidates in 2019 did either - however they will generally be pretty close. Hutch ultimately had about 16.5% of the electorate and started from 9.5% of the electorate. Sherlock started with 7.5% and ended up with 19% of the votes. In sheer numbers Hutch gained 2200 transfers and Sherlock gained 3600.

    While Hutch might have a chance in a General Election - I don't think he has a hope here - he would have to get a high number of transfers from a big hitter being eliminated - his biggest transfer in the GE was from the elimination of Malachy Steenson. When you look at the possible eliminated candidates FF, FG, SF, Lab, SD, Green - they all gave him less than 100 transfers in the GE - their transfers will end up staying in that group and ultimately elect one of them - that group got about 70% of the first preferences in the GE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    researched and written by Gerry’s Ryan’s young lad Rex

    Has that family not already inflicted enough self-serving nonsense on this nation?

    Anyway, no, he has no chance. He was only in contention for the fourth seat in the general election, he now faces the slight problem of only one seat being available this time.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    If he's playing the long game, it might shore up plenty of support in the next election. Getting people onto the register, who wouldn't otherwise have voted at all, is a really good thing. He also reacted very well to not winning the last time, behaved decently and respectfully throughout the campaign and the count. He can't win this time, for reasons already stated, but I would say he at least has an excellent chance of winning either a Dáil seat in the next general election, or a council seat in the next local elections.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The likes of him have absolutely zero interest in being a councillor.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Gerry Hutch? Yeah followed him for years but in his time he is still standing while the Westies and Kinnahans have come and are all nearly gone. Similar question to how come Gerry Adams and most of Sinn Fein lasted so long in leadership roles, while in normal roles leaders last about 8 years?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    It's not clear how you are getting from a comparison with the Kinahans to declaring Hutch operated within the law.
    You might also need to recheck what a cleanskin is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    He said you don't need to be registered to be called for jury duty ?.Aren't jurors called from the register .?

    He said government want to keep people "Igorant ". Sounds very bad. He really needs to learn to speak properly .

    I wonder will people feel an obligation to register ??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Had to google it…

    A 'cleanskin' is a person with a clean background who applies for a licence as a front person for an organised crime group. A 'cleanskin' is likely to have no easily discoverable links to organised crime nor other attributes (such as a relevant criminal record) that make her/him likely to be refused a licence.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    Not a hope, he nearly got the last seat the last time, but where there is only one seat up for grabs he wont stand a chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    You have pretty much hit the nail on the head with that post.

    By-elections are curious. Governments in Ireland rarely win them. That is not a surprise.

    During office, few governments retain more than 50% support, usually with it hovering around 40%. As a by-election requires 50%, the least offensive opposition candidate who can attract support from other opposition candidates has the best chance. You don't see many extreme left from PBP winning by-elections and you are unlikely to see extreme right like Hutch win it.

    Some of the heat appears to have been taken out of the immigration issue which also suggests that is unlikely to get a fair wind behind him. In a low turnout, his ceiling is 20-25%, not enough to be in the final reckoning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    "He seems to largely represent a very "local" demographic of people who've lived in the area for a long time, who probably voted independent or various left groups for years"

    A lot didn't vote at all. He probably hopes that calling on them to register will get him that vote



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    Very poor cringe speaking in the video where he has a stripe top. Stumbling through it, should write it down and put it behind camera so he could read.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    he probably finds reading difficult if not impossible…?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭bassy


    Don't care and straight away unfollows thread as if I ever did follow this sh1te



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Would have better if SF and the SDs, PBP etc didn't run with the World Bank 10 million BS about Pascal Donohoe so Hutch could repeat it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    I hate this thing of trying to turn criminals into celebrities, something very English about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    For someone so good at planning robberies his speeches are an unplanned mess . He said something like " the importance of voting is very important ".

    Surely he could get someone to write him a script for his videos. How will he speak in the Dail ?



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