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Social Housing Mechanism

  • 06-03-2026 05:30PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35


    Hi folks, I was wondering if someone could explain how the social housing system works, particularly how homes are allocated.

    I don’t have any issue with social housing in principle, but I’m trying to understand how the allocation works in practice.

    We’re currently looking at houses and found a really nice estate. It’s probably considered a more premium development - well built with high-quality materials. One-bed apartments start at around €450k and 3-bed homes are around €850k.

    The estate agent mentioned that about 20% of the properties will be allocated for social housing.

    I’m curious about how those homes are assigned. Is it based purely on waiting lists, or are there other criteria involved? For example, would someone simply get offered a property in that development when their turn comes up, while someone else might be offered something in a different area or development?

    I’m also wondering how the ongoing costs work in these cases. Some of the homes are quite large (130+ sq m), and the apartments are close to 100 sq m, so I imagine utility bills and management fees could be significant. Are there supports for those types of costs, or are tenants expected to cover them fully?

    Just trying to understand how the system works in situations like this. Thanks in advance for any insight.



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Its based on need and number on the list i.e. a family would take precedent over a single person and the higher you're on the list the quicker you are housed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Sir_luksik


    Thanks for this, this is exactly what I was looking for.

    Another question. Is it possible to check/determine social housing based on the property price register? Would social housing come up on the register?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    "Stung" by this myself a few years back in a new build estate. The LA bought 3 houses in a row that were attached to our corner semi, and they housed travellers in the neighbouring property. Absolute nightmare it was. We sold up after a year, but I believe they were since moved out and it has settled down a bit amongst the few attached houses.

    Thread carefully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Sir_luksik


    To be honest, this is one of my concerns. If I’m paying €900k+ for a house, I’d like to have a good understanding of the surrounding environment and what the neighbourhood will be like long term.
    For example, the house across the road from us is a social house and unfortunately it hasn’t been very well maintained. The bins are often not put out for collection and when it’s windy rubbish ends up blowing around the estate. The driveway doesn’t appear to have been cleaned since the house was built and the windows also don’t seem to have been maintained.
    I want to be clear that I have nothing against social housing and I completely understand that people are in different circumstances. However, my concern is that sometimes properties may not be maintained to the same standard, whether due to cost, resources, or other factors, and that can have an impact on the overall upkeep of the area.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Live in a small council estate, former council tenant but most have been bought out and some 2nd generation buyers. There is 2 houses empty over 2 years and I'm anxiously waiting to see who they put in there. My neighbours on either side of me, council tenants and the nicest people you could meet all though one I wish would keep the appearance of the house a bit better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,125 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    I live in a private estate and it's a **** hole with plenty of run down and empty houses and they ain't social housing

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    Before considering a particular house in a development you need to find out with certainty which houses in the scheme are allocated to each class of purchaser. But be aware that sometimes the estate may be in construction and the houses not assigned for certainty due to prolonged discussions with the council. In other developments the social houses may have a slightly different finish as individual purchasers may have agreed alterations at extra cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Portweather


    it’s a minimum of 20% social housing. And if builder gets into difficulty an approved housing body can swoop in and buy up and houses not sold. Estates are a different beast nowadays.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Sir_luksik


    Well I was wondering if this is true. For this particular estate, houses under phase I are all sold/occupied but non of them appears in the property register.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    Even with private estates, there's no guarantee you won't end up with nightmare neighbours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 dkRulez


    One of the best way to identify which houses are reserved for Social housing is to go to the application website for your local council for your estate and look for part V housing map/site layout. Part V means houses assigned to social/affordable schemes. We saw in planning permissions before booking which houses were Part V and accordingly which street/block to purchase.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Councils and AHBs are purchasing homes in addition to the Part V stock.

    These newly purchased homes wont appear as reserved for the councils meaning the total number of social homes in a new estate could be much higher than the Part V allocation.

    This practice also drives prices up for the private buyer since there are fewer properties available to purchase than was originally intended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Happened in my estate. Houses for sale on the private market brought by the council.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭MadeInKerry


    We were buying in a new estate a few years ago. We were happy enough with the 10 or 15% social allocation as it was. Then a friend who knew someone working in the agents told us that an AHB were buying another 30% of the houses for charity and that we should avoid. We made a few enquiries ourselves and they told us the truth so we pulled out and bought somewhere else, not a new build because we were afraid it would happen again. I dropped someone living in that estate home last year and drove past the house we had put our deposit on. The place was a tip. There were about 10 weirdos smoking out in the garden next door blasting music. The house on the other side looked like a dump, with the amount of stuff in the front garden. Bins overflowing and rubbish all over the place. There were houses that looked like that along each road I passed in the estate.

    I think we had a lucky escape.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    True but certain NGOs you are garunteed nightmare clients (PMVT, I am look at you, unless its the CEO). The charity wont shift them. There is NO personal responsibility there. With private ownership there is no "plan B". Not saying it doesnt happen, but private houses are in general better taken care of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭ingo1984


    You know the whole system is flawed when people eligible for social housing are getting 900k houses. Its nearly more beneficial to give up working in a middle imcome job and just getting a minimum wage job in the local shop. Get HAP to cover your rent until you recieve the keys to your new house courtesy of the irish tax payer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    There is no income limit to HAP either. If you qualify for it you can keep it even when your salary rises, which is unfair on those earning above averge incomes who never qualify for supports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭Allinall




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You hear this rhetoric quite a bit, funnily no one ever does it though.

    Why don't you give it a go and see how better off you'll be?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭ingo1984


    Prefer the option of keeping my current job which pays a good salary and go down the route of starting a family with my girlfriend and get her and the kids on the housing list. Then move in with them when they get the keys to the brand new 3 bed semi-d. Have a few direct relatives and work colleagues who opted for that route. Get the free house whilst maintaining your good salary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Fire ahead then, you do you, but don't complain about the system if you plan to exploit it.

    Seems your direct relatives and work colleagues are part of the problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Is its provision not means tested?



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    it is and you pay a % of your salary so hugher earners pay more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,018 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    It's f**k all in comparison to market rent / mortgage rates. I have direct relatives working decent enough jobs now in social housing and it isn't a patch on my mortgage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,018 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Up to the maximum level. Which is still less than most mortages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭csirl


    The system works on the honour system - councils dont check the information supplied. Even people who already own a house can get a council house.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭ingo1984


    Its endemic across all levels. One of my cousins is a guard. His partner a teacher, and theyve 3 kids. They got a brand spanking new house courtesy of the council to which her father is a current county council representative. Ireland at its finest.



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