NCT REPORT: FAIL DANGEROUS

A court case is likely to do nothing more than clarify whether Fail Dangerous invalidates remaining time on an old NCT, like an MOT fail does in the UK. There certainly will never be a court challenge on whether a tyre is bald or not.

ANPR can only give a good guess as to insurance status; as there are vehicles insured without their reg being on the file; driving-other-cars drivers insured to drive any vehicle regardless of status, trade policies and so on.

It does, however, have tax and NCT status. And I believe the NCT status changes to failed immediately on a fail of any type even if there was expired time; albeit you could go try argue your old test is still valid.

That the NCTS system now records your vehicle as unroadworthy is enough for there to be a reason suggestion that it is legally unroadworthy.

Your position is the one that needs legal support, not mine.

Regardless, driving an unroadworthy vehicle is illegal whether or not it has a valid NCT, and you've just been handed proof it is unroadworthy.

Is there any actual physical evidence of this?

I have my old NCT cert which I can produce i court.

While true.

Most mechanics and Garage do not have all the equipment the NCT test with. So some fails cannot be avoided with just normal maintenance.

The only time I've had one it wasn't mentioned either. Tyre knicked badly on the kerbing protector, told to bring it back for a visual, sticker on the windscreen saying they'd phone AGS if the car was driven.

The clearly don't do that, if they ever did.

You made the claim that a cert remained valid after a failed test. You have no proof. (see, other people can use bold too)

Stop demanding other people provide stuff til you provide yours, thanks. If you continue to fail to understand the burden of proof here falls solely on you, please don't bother replying.

As for "other thread", what on earth are you on about?

You made the claim, you provide the proof. You have provided no proof. Sayinf "period" is not proof.

This is such a simple concept and yet you can't understand it.

That documents can be invalidated by new information is also a simple concept you seem to not understand.

You also seem to think that a link on this thread to this thread is another thread, as far as I can see. It isn't, it's the same thread.

When you run AI on this question it's seems to suggest for minor and major fails the original NCT remains valid for 30 days only. But is invalidated by a dangerous failure.

I can't find any place this is clearly stated and seems to be a interpretation by the AI of the wording on the NCT site and Citizens info site. It's probably an interpretation of the road traffic act as it relates to the NCT.

I think a dangerous to drive really gives you no options here. You shouldn't drive a car everyday without a handbrake.

Honestly what a ridiculous thread.

You are really overestimating the Garda's want or need to prosecute someone in this situation. It's highly unlikely that they have access to NCT failures. And even if they did, OP will not be pulled over, they almost certainly will not meet a checkpoint, and if they did, they would be waved straight through. Absolutely no one gets their cars trailered from the NCT centre after a dangerous fail.

This IS the "other thread". It is a link back to this thread.

If you cannot understand that, you will never understand that you, as the person making the extraordinary claim, are the one who needs to prove it. Nobody else does.

It isn't anyone else's fault that you don't understand basic reasoning, and you shouldn't be posting as if you have any concept of it until you do.

Can you show the post where a "holier than thou wants to lecture him", please.

What we have is someone with no logic skills and a gripe against the NCT making an extraordinary claim with no evidence, refusing to back it up and getting so confused in the process that they think there's two threads.

My insurance company wouldn't send out a tow truck when my car died last month because the NCT was expired by one day! So I'd imagine if you were in a crash you would be shafted by your insurance company in the circumstances, the NCT information is obviously shared.

And that a piece of paper can never be revoked, it seems. So presumably a cancelled insurance policy is OK too.