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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Killing of two students in Lebanon 'a new chapter in targeting civilians', president says

    Lebanon's president has condemned the killing of two students.

    Joseph Aoun blamed Israeli strikes on the Lebanese University campus in the southern suburbs of Beirut for their deaths.

    The president said: 

    "What happened today at the Faculty of Sciences is a crime condemned by all standards, and a flagrant violation of international laws and norms that prohibit attacks on educational institutions and civilians. 

    "It is a new chapter in the targeting of civilians, whether in their villages and towns, or in their workplaces or places of study."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Nice one. We have two Paris and two Tripoli. Did you know the Center for Jewish Studies is in Maryland Baltimore. Incredible isn't it!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,279 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Israel systematically destroys the civilian fabric of countries they want to colonise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Sounds to me like Netanyahu is making his excuses:-

    There is no guarantee that the Iranian people will rise up after Israel “creates the conditions” for them to topple the regime in Tehran, says Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    “You can lead someone to water, you cannot make him drink,” says Netanyahu. “We will create optimal conditions to do this, including airstrikes as we did yesterday, as we are doing these days, to try to give them the space needed to take to the streets.”

    Even if the regime in Iran does not fall, says Netanyahu, “it will be much weaker.”

    “It’s simply a different Iran — it no longer threatens as it did before,” he continues. “It is not the same power. It’s not the giant bully that nothing can be done against and that no one can unite against.”

    Netanyahu says he doesn't know if Iranians will oust regime, threatens new supreme leader | The Times of Israel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭combat14


    the uranium is still there though.. job not done yet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    US military says it lost plane in 'incident' during Operation Epic Fury

    A US refuelling plane was lost during military operations against Iran, US Central Command has said.

    In a statement, the force said:

    "US Central Command is aware of the loss of a US KC-135 refuelling aircraft. The incident occurred in friendly airspace during Operation Epic Fury, and rescue efforts are ongoing. Two aircraft were involved in the incident. One of the aircraft went down in western Iraq, and the second landed safely.

    "This was not due to hostile fire or friendly fire."

    The two aircraft would have been "heavily involved" in the operation in Iran, US correspondent Mark Stone says.

    "[The missing aircraft]looks to non-experts like a civilian plane. Effectively, it's a Boeing jet, very large, [and] probably has a crew of around about six people, including the pilot and co-pilot. 

    "That is the the aircraft that is missing. The other aircraft, they haven't said what it is, but that landed safely. 

    "It's probable that second aircraft was a fighter jet that was being refuelled by the plane that is now missing."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭amacca


    It's a lever ...simple as....the plan is, we can't fight them with our own Tomahawks, moabs, precision guided weapons etc etc but we can make it uncomfortable for their allies and other countries so they exert pressure back on the US etc

    Why wouldn't they? They have to respond as this escalates....if this becomes uncomfortable enough for Trump he may be forced into what amounts to a defeat....oh sure he'll claim it as a win or spin some utter bullshit but it won't be......that's a lever they have open to them so they pull it to try protect the regime....

    I'm sure if they had other levers they would pull them too...perhaps they are working in those too

    Essentially....Trump ....like the retard he is wandered into a hornets nest with maximum arrogance and zero preparation....he's playing in the real world now ....not a reality TV sandbox.....he couldn't be more out of his depth...he has to be one of the most pathetic world leaders in recent times

    The likes of putin, orban etc are detestable low life's......but Trump adds being an arrogant vain moron to those qualities



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,279 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    One of these

    Screenshot 2026-03-12 224319.png

    This particular one squawked 7700 5 hours ago but appeared to land in Tel Aviv

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/63-8017#3eb55786



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    The only conditions this moron created are more hate and anger towards Israel. I would actually bet money that jewish people rise against their own government sooner than Iranians against theirs.

    Damage in Israel is real and quite extensive despite news embargo and prison time for anyone who post video or pictures of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,279 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Actually looking at that Flightradar tracking, it would appear to me that the aircraft above is the second aircraft involved and it sent an emergency squak and then dumped fuel over the med before landing in Tel Aviv. Therefore two tankers involved, one damaged and one downed. Do they refuel tankers mid-air?



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,113 Mod ✭✭✭✭circadian


    This should be fun, Nintendo are one of the most litigious companies on the planet, and they have fairly deep pockets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Netherlands, Iceland join South Africa’s ICJ case on Gaza genocide

    The Netherlands and Iceland have formally filed declarations of their intent to participate in South Africa’s case accusing Israel of genocide at the International Court of Justice.

    Iceland’s written intervention, totalling 24 pages, notes, for example, that factors related to Israel’s forced displacement of Palestinians in Gaza should include the mass destruction of housing and the enclosed nature of the enclave.

    The Netherlands’ submission, totalling 10 pages, covers a range of topics, including “starvation and the deliberate withholding of humanitarian aid,” which it says must be “calculated to bring about [the] eventual physical destruction] of a group, in order to be considered as genocidal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭goldsparkle


    If*cking desperate. Is anyone applying pressure on America.

    I am not one for protesting. I am so tempted to start protesting down in Doonbeg but I don't know if that would do anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭goldsparkle


    Have you seen online news from Australia. Oil is running out in Australia and there's rations on oil and fuel and filling tanks. People are only allowed 20 dollars worth of oil at the pumps. That's if they can find a pump with oil.

    * F* cking desperate *



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭thomil


    Not the base model KC-135. They can refuel other aircraft, but can’t be refuelled themselves, at least not in flight. There are several variants of the KC-135 that can be refuelled in mid-air, but they’re highly modified aircraft, mostly for ELINT or SIGINT missions from what I can tell. The RC-135 “Rivet Joint” is a prime example, as were the old EC-135 “Looking Glass” airborne command posts before they were retired. Technically, their successor in the airborne command posts role, the US Navy’s E-6 Mercury, can also be refuelled mid-air, but anyone who decides to send one of those things to the Middle East deserves to be keelhauled. On an aircraft carrier!

    Edit: After a bit more digging, there are a number of “receiver capable” KC-135Rs out there, but there’s little information about those. From what I’ve been able to gather, they’re mostly used for extremely long range operations or to support special ops missions. The outfit that operated the handful of receiver capable K-135s, the 22nd Air Refuelling Wing, apparently supported F-117 stealth fighter missions during Desert Storm.

    By contrast, all of the new KC-46 Pegasus tankers that are being procured to replace the older KC-135s can both give and receive fuel in-flight.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    We changed our constitution

    In any case you should be calling for that section of the charter to be removed especially given the fact Likud are in government and the Israeli prime minister and others in the current Israeli government have given speeches in recent times which reflect the supremacist language contained in the charter.

    Regarding you saying the West Bank is contested land. The ICJ was clear in its ruling regarding The West Bank being illegally occupied by Israel and calling for it to end. Framing it as contested land is what i'd expect from someone sympathetic to Israel's position on the West Bank to say, despite such a position being in defiance of international law. Which is a strange position to take given you are keen for Iran's leadership to be held to account for breaking international law. Do you only want international law to be upheld selectively? I ask because if you don't then you should wish for infractions of international law to be pursued regardless of who stands accused of doing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭goldsparkle


    With the war, conflict and tensions so volatile and America is a target for terrorist attacks now, I don't want MM going over to the WH for St Patricks day. It's just in case anything bad was to happen. I don't want anything bad to happen to MM. I kinda do like MM. That, and he really shouldn't be meeting with that war monger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭goldsparkle


    So, a bank was hit in Iran by America and Israel. Are they for f*cking real? Why did that do that? Iran said that American and Israel banks are now targets.

    America and Israel are making things so much more worse. They need to leave Iran alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Did they include the strike on the kids school in that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    JD Vance seems to be very quiet these days. Perhaps all is not well between him and Donnie over the war. If so this could work out to his advantage in the longer term



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Meidas reports a French soldier in Erbil, Northern Iraq, has been killed in an Iranian strike. This is the capital of the Kurdish autonomous region. It's likely that Iran is doing this because of reports the US and Israel were going to send Kurdish insurgents into Iran.

    Reports that Trump considering waiving the Jones Act. The Jones Act is a century old law that requires goods being transported between US ports to be American owned.

    He's also saying higher oil prices is actually a good thing as the US sells a lot of oil and it will bring in more money.

    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Multiple executive orders, according to Google:

    There is no specific statutory law passed by Congress banning the assassination of foreign heads of state; instead, this prohibition exists through Executive Orders signed by Presidents Ford, Carter, and Reagan. Executive Order 12333, signed by Reagan in 1981 and still in effect, prohibits any person employed by or acting on behalf of the U.S. government from engaging in, or conspiring to engage in, assassination.

    Some thoughts from The Atlantic:

    “On Saturday, the United States, in a joint operation with Israel, killed Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. For the first time in the postwar era, Washington has succeeded in killing a foreign leader—shattering a precedent that had been sustained for decades by a mix of moral, political, and logistical concerns.

    Fifty years ago, in February 1976, President Gerald Ford signed Executive Order 11905, which directed that “no employee of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, political assassination.” ”

    “Ford’s successors actually broadened the scope of his assassination ban. First Jimmy Carter and then Ronald Reagan dropped the qualifier of “political.” Reagan directed that “no person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.” Reagan’s version of the assassination ban remains in effect, last amended by George W. Bush in 2008. President Trump didn’t revoke it.”

    Reagan did come close to killing Qaddafi, likewise both HW Bush and Clinton with Saddam Hussein but they weren’t specifically targeted.

    “As killing foreign leaders gets easier for us, harming our leaders also presumably gets easier for others. The international taboo against foreign political assassination has arguably had a stabilizing effect, despite those states—Russia, for example—that have flouted it. To put a fine point on it, however tempting it may be to eliminate troublesome foreign leaders, no policy maker in a democracy wants to spark acts of retaliation that cost the lives of our own leaders in turn.”

    “Trump Opens the Pandora’s Box of Assassination”

    Tim Naftali

    The Atlantic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    Leave Trump but Hegseth, Miller, Rubio for a start would spark celebrations@



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Iran started to lay mines on Thursday in the strait of Hormuz, a crucial Gulf passage for 20% of the world’s oil supply, US officials told the New York Times.

    While Donald Trump has boasted that the US military has destroyed Iran’s navy, officials said Iran had started using smaller boats to place mines and enforce the closure of the strait it had imposed on its Gulf neighbours, sending oil prices sky high.

    Iran’s move to close the narrow passage has long been an expected move by war planners in previous administrations but apparently took the Trump administration by surprise.

    CNN reported on Thursday that senior Trump administration officials told lawmakers in recent classified briefings that they did not plan for the possibility of Iran closing the strait in response to strikes by the US and Israel.

    “Planning around preventing this exact scenario … has been a bedrock principle of US national security policy for decades,” a former US official who served in Republican and Democratic administrations told CNN. “I’m dumbfounded.”

    Surprised by Iran closing the strait. Surprised at Israel's bombing of Iran's oil infrastructure. Obviously Israel kept all of this from Trump and he is too thick to understand he's being taken for a ride by Netanyahu and Putin. The US administration just listens to what they're told by Israel and the macho "Hit 'em hard" atmosphere and Hegseth shouting "Kill all Muslims" in bars is now playing out on the world stage. I guarantee Trump said thank you on the phone to Putin for being able to fill in some missing supply after removing the sanctions.

    Unfortunately, it seems likely that the US will bomb a tonne of critical infrastructure across Iran, like the electricity grid and water etc. and Iran will respond by bombing desalination plants and oil infrastructure across Israel and the gulf. But no one will tell Trump that. The US administration is obviously lacking the strategic knowledge that the Middle East requires and that is a result of filling every role with unqualified sycophants. They will just try to dig themselves out of this with bigger and bigger attacks. They will make tens of millions of Iranians suffer just a few weeks after pretending to care about them.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    They will brutalise them and then blame them for not overthrowing the regime. Netanyahu was coming out with ‘You can lead someone to water, you can’t make them drink’ yesterday, saying Israel is giving Iranians the conditions to rise up.

    It's just a way to transfer responsibility onto the dead. It's the same playbook Israel uses with Gaza, convincing the world they deserve to die because "they chose Hamas as their leaders". In reality, they gave Hamas 44% of a vote in 2006 and then Hamas violently took Gaza over the following year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    The US Navy reminds me of the Tirpitz, Bizmarck's sister ship, in World War II. It was so big and expensive and important that it was effectively left out of the war in case it was lost.

    While the US can use the aircraft on those ships, the ships themselves are not being used in case they are lost. The Navy is explicitly saying they will only provide escorts when escorts are no longer needed, basically adopting police tactics during school shootings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭somenergy


    You will be pissing off the only people in ireland who love the trump family inc a couple of local golfers

    As to the non planned attack on Iran and the equally non consideration of the closing straits waterway, is up there with other adventures in that area with 1 Hugh exception it is a massive country and throw in Afghanistan like terrain good luck ur on ur own.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Reporter Clarissa Ward comments on the WH war videos, some of which feature video games:



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