Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Every single year (regardless of American President) theres an opinion that's basically this: "Taoiseach X shouldn't visit President Y, because of topic Z"

It's beyond that. It always has been and (hopefully) always will be.

Ireland is in theory a neutral country. A regular, guaranteed, annual meeting with the president of the USA should not be thrown away due to the politics of that particular time.

Can you recall the scandals of 1968, 1973, 1979, 1981, 1984, 1987, 1990,1996,2003, 2004, 2009, 2012 that meant the Taoiseach shouldn't have travelled over?

No, no, you can't. Because there was a Political argument on each occasion as to why he shouldn't travel. But in a historical sense, now when we look back, nobody knows why.

And again in 2026 there's people saying he shouldn't go. But 2026 will also be washed away and blurred into history. Yet, the unique opportunity to meet the president of the USA annually, won't be washed away.

To maintain it, we've to keep doing it. The role of a leader is to do what's best for a country. You can't base your decisions on the day to day social media posts or fickle criticisms that occur every single year. You're representing the Irish state, not yourself or your party.

I don't begrudge whatever leader, the chance to visit each year on behalf of the State. It's too easy a bone to pick. it's way more nuanced than that. You can't simply decide to not visit because someone's a turd.

Apparently, there are Iranian sleeper cells in America but the government probably knows where they are:

“A lot of people came in through Biden with his stupid open border,” Trump replied. “But we know where most of them are. We’ve got our eye on all of them, I think.”

Every press conference with Trump is a risk and the stakes are much higher in a war. If he gets a difficult question he just starts making things up.

1 of Iranian conditions for reopening the straits should be regime change in the US because they are also religious nutjobs less popular than we are among ours.

Yet again, Trump has to be told what a great man he is and accept another trinket

https://www.threads.com/@allie4tn/post/DVz5ttwlfsP?xmt=AQF0mN-QLQDSC4_79J6RR_FXpE_SJc-Ljc6Eh-BMtA5vsnHVcWDLpQGbHr5tIlJc8d_ucspN&slof=1

A presentation no less for his support of women in sports.

Putting aside his utterly ridiculous "who me? I had no idea!" attempts to look surprised, he joked about how he could grab any women by their ***** just because he was famous, was best friends with a paedophile and actively prevents details being released, wished that paedophile's accomplice well on at least two occasions, was found liable for sexual assault against women, commonly disparages women for their looks and berates female reporters, and has cheated on all of his wives. What a fantastic advocate for women eh?

I suppose it makes as much sense as him being awarded a peace award from FIFA and then bombing their contestants in the FIFA World Cup.

Clearly it doesn't matter what you say to their audience of low IQ morons

Black is white, up is down, high oil prices are bad, high oil prices are good etc etc

The absurdity of Trump is an obscenity to humanity.

There's nothing new about the fear of "sleeper cells", especially since 9/11 and previously the Cold War.

https://www.naadsn.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Nash_Iran-and-Sleepers-Quick-Impact-2.pdf

Discussion here from a Canadian body specifically in relation to Iranian threat in 2020, which very much talks down the threat.

If Trump wants to end war, and I think he does as a prolonged conflict will split his coalition, then downplaying threat now suits him.

What the actual current intelligence assessment is we won't know unless it suits the administration to leak it.

If the threat is real and something happens on USA soil it'll force his hand and there'll be boots on the ground. If that happens this war will be still rumbling on in 10 years time.

Iranian backed terrorism is much more likely in the gulf nations supporting USA.

It is an absolutely dreadful country in so many ways. And in an increasing number of ways. I wouldn't go there if you offered me an all expenses paid trip.

Wow, so US are now going to basically fund Russia's war with Ukraine by buying their oil…it beggers belief

Once you realise Trump is a Russian asset it all makes sense.

It's not difficult to make him look stupid though he is playing cutesie on this one. I don't think Vance can put any sort of clear red water between himself and Trump's actions. He hasn't the personality to get away with it, for a start.

He thinks???

Listening to the news on RTE reading how, after the last U.S attack on Iran, the IRGC did a re-think of its defence policy and brought in a new format in case of an attack beheading the nations Govt. It included the splitting of the Guards control into twelve separate sections each with its own leader [like a hydra] so it could not be neutered if attacked.

The effect might be that the new head of Govt is powerless under the new format with control resting with the Guard, who control the Govt agencies. An expression of that may explain why Iran's UN ambassador statement on the freedom of use of the Strait conflicted with the new Ayatollah's statement on the Strait. The Ayatollah may be like Trump, a puppet with some-one else's hand inserted to control what he says and does.

Just in from Trump off his X account “if only I was president the war in Iran would have never started. I’ll have it finished in 24 hrs”.