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Path to power podcast without Ivan Yates

  • 16-11-2025 03:29PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22


    This reminds me of when 8 simple rules for dating my teenage daughter tried continue without the father, Who would pay 6€ per month to listen to bloody Matt Cooper? he's already on FM radio for free 15 hours per week.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Yep. Every podcast I wholly enjoy inevitably goes to shite.

    I think Matt is trying to save face but soldiering on but there is no doubt the X-factor of the podcast was undoubtedly Ivan.

    I gave the new episodes the benefit of the doubt but as explicitly challenged by Matt at the start of the first new look pod "this won't now become some middle of the road echo chamber".

    But unfortunately it has. I respect and like a few of his new contributors Shane Coleman, Larry Donnelly. That said, going forward it will be as Vanilla as the Last Word. Nobody will stir the pot, challenge Matt or speak outside the lines.

    Post edited by ShagNastii on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Ivan should start his own podcast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    He obviously inviting contrarian journalists he (and I) disagrees with, but they are somehow much worse because they have no humour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    Perhaps an AI Ivan might save the content creator from the P45



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    The appeal of Ivan Yates to me was his experience as a former politician and senior minister, he offered a sort of insider perspective to party dynamics, different political roles and the sort of games and backstabbing that goes on in political life.

    When it's just fairly bland journalists debating hot topics it loses that perspective and ultimately is just like a lot of other podcasts out there, many of which have more charismatic hosts. I haven't listened to it much without Ivan and don't think I will again with these sort of co-hosts.

    That said I agree with Matt's decision to sever connections with Ivan, it was crazy not to disclose his connections with Jim Gavin and the many FF ministers he coached and it's hard to believe he wasn't using the position to deliberately promote people he had a personal connection given some of the things that were said.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    listened to the one with Shane Coleman just to prove to myself that it would be rubbish and it was.glad I cancelled my subscription the day Ivan was axed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭reactadabtc


    I still have my subscription, i've given it a chance. It's ok. It's not what it was, not even close. I don't look forward to Fridays and Sundays anymore, I use to be excited to open a new episode, now I don't really care. Shane Coleman on multiple times, WTF is that.

    I'm not sure I'll be keeping my sub going, sadly. It was my favourite pod.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    "That said I agree with Matt's decision to sever connections with Ivan, it was crazy not to disclose his connections with Jim Gavin and the many FF ministers he coached and it's hard to believe he wasn't using the position to deliberately promote people he had a personal connection given some of the things that were said."

    There wasn't any secret to the fact that he worked as a media coach for FF. But he was leaving P2P anyway next month so the 'controversy' was a bit for show IMO.

    I've seen it a couple of times since on YT and it's rubbish without Ivan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    P2P was a favourite of mine too and I havent listened to it since Ivan left. Apart from the insider perspective, a huge draw with him was the humour and banter he brought to proceedings. I have a lot of time for the likes of Larry Donnelly but he's fine on a Tuesday morning analyzing US news with Pat Kenny. If you're asking people to fork out cash for your show, you would want a bit more than the dry as a bone commentary you can get for free on radio 5 days a week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,279 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    It's ok depending on who the contributors are. Ivan was yang to Cooper's yin in the past. Which gave a bit of balance. But the last free episode for example had Shane Coleman and Lise Hand on with Matt. And it was borderline unlistenable as all three are classic establishment liberal lefties for the most part. Even though Coleman is FF. Lise Hand must have mentioned the far-right about 30 times in an hour. Coleman rushing to the defence of the government as he prone to do.

    John Lee and Daniel McDonell give a bit more balance when they are on. Seems like there has been more spice in the subscriber podcast with Ger Colleran rowing with Brenda Power in one episode but I'm not a subscriber so only heard the clip.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    They're asking people to PAY to listen to Colleran and Brenda Power! They couldn't pay ME to listen to that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Jelly Welly


    jaysus. That would be some torture ! Have avoided since IY left



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Yeah I'd echo the comments above. I have given it a good chance but it has fallen a bit flat. There is no back and forth banter and "you know yourself…" about it. It has now become an awful lot more "roundtable".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Big_Farmer_2026


    I've not listened to an episode since Ivan left and from the sounds of the above that was the right decision.

    Why would anybody pay to listen to Cooper and his merry band whinging like Helen Lovejoy about every issue under the sun. Cooper is obsessed with constantly pushing how right on and virtuous on every issue he is, it's sickening narcissism and I'm surprised Ivan lasted that long.

    It's a pity Ivan hasn't started his own podcast with a more interesting co-host than Cooper, it would be a great success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I'd say it is clear Ivan is making his money from PR and hosting outside the pod realm.

    He was 100% brought in as a mercenary for the path 2 power podcast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Geez this mornings show was pretty painful.

    I stomached the fact Matt has become vanilla but he really has become fairly unbearable. He's so thinned skinned about offend anyone outside of Trumps bubble.

    A bit about Pascal Donoghue was f'n cringe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Mugingo


    Jaysus now we are getting episodes back to back without Matt Cooper even. YouTube views are down over 75% since Ivan Yates left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Yeah I wonder if Matt is possibly throwing in the towel. I've kept it as my habitual Saturday morning routine but I'm tapping out. It now just feels like a bunch Irish politicos giving their rote view on the topic of the week.

    Under Yeats and Cooper there was a bit of dynamism to it all. Now it's just entirely "meh".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    Someone posted in The Last Word thread in the radio sub, that MC hasn't been on air in two weeks.

    Turns out he hasn't put out a P2P episodes either in the same time. Is he unwell?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Westernview


    A few weeks ago Cooper spoke on this piece about taking ozempic, which surprised me at the time but I think he said he needed it as he had put on weight due to diabetes. Hope he is ok.

    https://www.todayfm.com/podcasts/the-last-word-with-matt-cooper/how-ozempic-is-changing-the-world



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭Hold My Hand


    Read somewhere today that Ivan was starting a new podcast with another guy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,931 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    From the first episode he' on for 5 mins at the start but no other involvement. Seems he's signed up to draw listeners in but has minimal involvement



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    For those of you missing cutting political analysis the Taoiseach is this week’s guest on Mark Moriarty’s “Roasted” podcast, brought to you by M&S Food.

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    Mark’s podcast is also brought to you by NKM, and normally consists of him interviewing the other stars of NKM…..in the same way many of the stars of NKM interview other stars of NKM on their radio shows. Getting the Taoiseach to appear on the show is a big step up and quite a coup so to speak.

    Quite what the Taoiseach is doing on this show however is another matter. How a man who is in such a busy and demanding job has the time to be on a podcast like this is a question worth asking. Who advised him that this would be a good move? It’s also not the first NK Productions podcast he has appeared on btw. What’s next? Will it be Kathryn Thomas’ pod, Carl Mullan’s, or perhaps he can flex his sporting knowledge on Donncha O’Callaghan’s? Or maybe he could tell Doireann Garrihy about the laughs of his life?

    I had thought NK’s power and influence ended with RTÉ and Virgin, Bauer etc. It seems not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭hawley


    Very odd for the Taoiseach to appear on that podcast. It seems such a bizarre choice. Looking at some of the YouTube viewing figures for Motiarty's podcast; Tom Kerridge episode from 4 months ago has 118 views, Paul McGinley from 5 months ago has 370 views.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,334 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    George Hook floated the idea a few months or a year after he finished up with Newstalk. He might even have done one episode.

    He was probably 10 years too old/late to trying to hit the podcast game. It worked perfectly for Eamonn Dunphy, but even with him it would have nice if he started a few years sooner.

    Not so sure that Ivan has the genuine interest in covering relatively mundane topics month by month etc. His cohost's always had to keep him focused and to carry the can of structuring the show I feel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I think the relationship between traditional media and new media is like the difficult relationship between the print media and the early radio broadcasters. When HG Wells' "War of the Worlds" caused panic because people thought the Martians had invaded (I think in 1929), the print media were outraged and argued this showed radio was unreliable. Sort of like what they are now saying about social media. Although I think in the case of social media its different because of online anonymity. I think podcasters that are already well known and named have more credibility with the public. Unfortunately too many are nonetheless taken in by the bots especially in the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Yes Dunphy seemed to have a love for presenting and researching whereas Yates seems more about just turning up and making money. Yates can be entertaining but he was often wrong with his analysis based on his 'sources'. He didnt seem to care once could act the bad cop. He's nowhere near the level of Dunphy but then again not many are nowadays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Migdal_Or


    I used to watch this regularly, but I stopped once Ivan left. The X-factor of the podcast; what sets podcasts apart from regular television and radio, was lost when Ivan left. It's no different that his radio show. I have no desire to pay to listen to the likes of John Deasy tell everyone how wonderful he is.

    He appeared on the Virgin Media show, The Assembly, which was another strange choice when you consider that Rosie O'Donnell, Joanne McNally, and Ryan Tubridy were the other guests on that show. I think this is all part of FF's attempt to try to win over younger voters on the left, something they are never going to do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Is it just me or does Deasy let out a sigh every time Cooper asks him a question? ...almost as if to say 'I know everything and it's a pain having to explain it to you'. Comes across as very arrogant.



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