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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Must be talking about the brother killed at Entebbe in 1976.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,181 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Many countries have used the Palestinians as pawns over the years just as national liberation struggles have been used for centuries as a means to weaken rivals. From French support for the American rebels, to German support for the Boers, US support for the Mujahideen and Contras.

    Iran is alienated from the Palestinian authority and formerly the PLO, not just because of Iranian opposition to the Oslo accords, but, as a poster mentioned yesterday, PLO support for Iraq in the Iran/Iraq war.

    Iran has long been characterised as the “largest state sponsor of terror”. Which is one of the reasons given for the current war in Iran. I don’t think this can be described as turning a blind eye to Iranian involvement in the Palestinian/Israel conflict. Their meddling is very much in the spotlight.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭goldsparkle


    What the US did was appalling. It's on the same level as poking North Korea and you just don't do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭dmcdona




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Arseboxing


    As a white Irish Catholic I'd say I'd probably have felt safer living in Germany 1939 than the USSR 1939 had I been alive at the time, but I'm still quite glad Germany lost the war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I've lived in Israel. Have you?

    From the comfort of an armchair in Ireland, it's easy to think you know what Israel is and think sure, it's a grand place and you'd love to live there. Go ahead.

    Wild horses wouldn't drag me back. Violence, aggression, murder, religious nutters, political nutters, military nutters and a world pariah.

    I feel for all Israelis who want no part of it. Many have had the opportunity to leave and many may never return. Many cannot leave and will suffer the consequences not of their doing. Just like the Iranians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Arseboxing


    Yes, it's bullshlt. The amount disinformation and AI slop on Twitter over this is off the scale. Most of it seems to be coming from people trying to pretend Iran are hitting Israel far harder than they actually are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    seems there are some social media accounts stating this. Seems unlikely and I'd discount it until/unless reputable news outlets report it.

    For sure, Smotrich's son was injured during military action in south Lebanon. Not sure how seriously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,279 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    and from people trying to pretend Iran hit the primary school kids on Saturday



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I'd be very grateful to learn more about your experience of living in Israel.

    That whole region is a part of the world that I have always loved to visit some time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    The modus operandum seems awfully similar to that fishing trawler that got bombed twice back before Christmas. Not one plane shooting 2 missiles, but 2 planes, shooting or dropping one bomb or missile each.

    Why would you do that?With the trawler it's because they saw survivors clinging to a sinking ship. With a school, there is nothing to cling on to, but what would there be 40 minutes after a missile attack? Rescuers.

    If bombing a school is not a war crime, surely bombing rescuers is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,279 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    The US learned from their partner in crime… Israel



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    That could happen if the coordinates were wrong. Horrendous tragedy which USA should own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    The Iranians I know will tell you the ayatollahs are Arabs not Persians and are Invaders of their country who imposed a foreign religion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Corrupting GPS navigation greatly increases the risk of tankers crashing into each other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Funnily enough I had planned to go and volunteer in Israel before the October 7th attack. That idea has gone out the window now. Well, that idea had gone out the window after I saw Israels response to what happened. After last satursday events, going anywhere in that general area is off the cards any time soon.

    Call me naive, or even childish, but I was expecting Israel would insert about 50 Mossad agents, 50 Jamey Bonds into Gaza and covertly retrieve the hostages and kill the people responsible, not go Call of Duty on them.

    Maybe I've read too many Frederick Forsyth books, but I sort of would have expected Iran to be similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    140 to 150 US troops injured thus far including 8 severely wounded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Arseboxing


    I would say that literally everything coming from the mouths of Trump, Netanyahu, Hegseth and the rest of the death cultists that make up the US and Israeli regimes is no better than AI slop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,217 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Short of the kind of sociopathic AI that appears in SciFi movies, I would say todays modern generative AI is a lot better than Trump and friends.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Luckily, I was there when it was very calm - just over 20 years ago. Beautiful country, incredible history, stunning religious sites. Many intelligent, articulate and spot on Israelis. Very taken with everything "European" - food, clothes, music, cars. I made many very good friends. Knew a few in the IDF too but they had no action in those days, just exercises.

    Jerusalem was incredible. Living history. And the four quarters gave some kind of hope that different peoples could co-exist.

    I used to give a lift to a 60 year old Palestinian carpenter each day to a taxi rank just outside Gaza. Lovely bloke. Just wanted to earn a living for his family.

    I spent time with the mother and father of two work colleagues (brothers). Father didn't have a word of English but listened intently as I explained America to his wife who desperately wanted to go there.

    I learned Hebrew and the two brothers taught me all the swear words.

    I lived in Ashkelon. Even though there was zero trouble at the time, I'd see the Israeli Navy firing tracer across Gaza for the craic. On the odd occasion, the F15s would fly over Gaza and hit Mach 1 - just to smash all the windows below. For the craic.

    I loved my time there but there was a berth dark underbelly. Americans there did not like the Israelis at all - very aggressive. I got used to it and they weren't all like that. Or perhaps I just gravitated to the nicer ones.

    It angers me to know that those people I knew are certainly horrified at what is happening there. And the carpenter and his family (wife and three girls) are probably dead.

    It angers me more that I know I probably won't get to return to an incredible country with such a deep history. But an ultimately flawed one that does not look like being sorted any time soon. And that is a loss to everyone - not just the Israelis.

    Reading posts here about those who travelled Iran and met Iranians, seems they have similar experiences - great country, lovely people but a few nutters really **** it up for everyone.

    I sincerely hope this a gets sorted out some time soon and people younger than me will get the chance to experience Israel as it should be and as the Israelis that I knew would want it to be. And I genuinely hope that includes you. In better times, wild horses would not have kept me away from Israel.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    @dmcdona that was so real and heart warming, I am grateful to you for sharing.

    Thank you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭combat14


    looks like this war is expensivs US apparently spent 5 billion in munitions on the first 2 days alone

    with israel looking to budget an extra 13.5 billion dollars for their iran war



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,719 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    There's plenty of them leaving now because of Iran's bombing of their cities. Probably head home to Eastern Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,616 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Fascinating account. Ori Goldberg (Israeli Jewish academic living in Tel Aviv) thinks the country is screwed basically and will never return to any sort of 'normality' in his lifetime - not unless the Netanyahu style maniacs are forced out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    It sounds, by the warmth of some of your experiences, like you lived in Palestine not Israel. Palestinians have shown huge endurance and warmth despite the brutality and barbarism of the last 80 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Indications of US war casualties are very low.

    “Since the start of Operation Epic Fury, approximately 140 US service members have been wounded over 10 days of sustained attacks,” Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell said.

    “The vast majority of these injuries have been minor, and 108 service members have already returned to duty. Eight service members remain listed as severely injured and are receiving the highest level of medical care.”

    The statement came after the Reuters news agency published a report citing two unidentified officials as saying that 150 service members were injured in the first 10 days of the war.

    The US military has confirmed seven fatalities from Iranian attacks across the region. It said on Monday that an eighth service member died of a “health-related incident” in Kuwait.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭Enduro


    I have no hurt feelings at all. I just deal with reality as it is, and not a bizarre wishful thinking version. Hence I find the need to distort reality quite bizarre.



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