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Ireland Ticket Information

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,315 ✭✭✭✭phog


    On a once or twice off, I have no problem in my ability to pay the current prices. After you pay out for the ticket you add in the travel to& from Dublin, probably close to zero atmosphere in the stadium and you think was that value for money and more times than not, it's not.

    At least with the 6Ns, you're attending one of the best rugby competitions in the world but still it's difficult to say €250 for a pair of tickets is good value



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,563 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Yep for non dubs a bit more expense and time consuming

    Way it is unfortunately and the IRFU & the likes couldn't give a flying **** once the €€ is rolling in

    I do think the Under 20's is great value and playing it outside of Dublin is a nice touch



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    The current pricing also keeps our provinces relatively competitive and keeps our provincial players at home and any games bringing kids to them will be expensive. compare internationals to all ireland finals and its similar price. most provincial games tickets can be purchased on the day as demand isnt there all too often. games arent sold out. theyre always sold out for internationals. you are also comparing the best seats in the house as well. there is plenty tickets cheaper and for all complaints about pricing. how do you replace this income for the sport if you reduce prices?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭ConcertKing


    Says the person who usually only goes when you get a free ticket? 😂😂😂

    If ever there was an opinion that is worthless on this topic it is yours!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    I only usually go if given ticketS because im usually working on match days in the ground. and i dont look to buy tickets often as im working there most games



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,791 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    but the IRFU aren't broke either.

    The IRFU ran a deficit of €4.2 million in their last accounts, down from €18 million the previous year. They simply aren't in a position to turn down revenue.

    Let's say we cut the price of a ticket by 20 euro across the board, that 50,000 x 20 x 3 = €3 million less in revenue. What do we cut from the IRFU activities to make up for that €3 million?

    It's not about being wealthy. You don't need to be wealthy to pay 120 or even 150 euro, once a year, to see a rugby match. Most people drop that on a dinner with the wife and a couple of beers on a Saturday night.

    Now, if you don't think it's good value, because you aren't that bothered about Ireland any more, don't like going to Dublin, atmosphere is shite, hate having to get up to let people out to the bar, they're all just there for the social media, whatever else, grand, but the vast vast vast majority of rugby fans can well afford it.

    But so long as the IRFU need the cash (they do) and the market will bear the prices (it does), it looks to me like they're pricing it right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,080 ✭✭✭✭The Iron Giant


    That's totally irrelevant. This game could easily have been a battle for third place.

    Also, on the 'funding the game' argument, the IRFU are absolutely minted with no debts. High ticket prices just top up their coppers. Which they're perfectly entitled to do, mind - but you can't paint it that the high prices are keeping the game going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭WeleaseWoderick


    Any idea of when tickets for our match in Rome will be available? I guess with it being Valentine's weekend and Italy now massively improved, they'll be a bit harder to get next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,315 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Yes, when you read some of the poor mouths on here you'd actually think the IRFU is broke.

    From RTE

    The 2024/25 deficit is also considerably lower than the previous year, where the IRFU had a deficit of €18.4m due to the costs associated with the World Cup.

    The IRFU reported cash and cash investments of €62.6m, no debt, and net assets of €81.6m.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭PMC83


    Honestly I don't know. As nice as it is, they could probably knock the Shelbourne on the head for a start. Harry McNulty had some interesting enough opinions on where the IRFU were spending indulgently and could save when he was making his case for saving the Sevens, how accurate his info is I'm not sure.

    On most Rugby fans being able to afford the tickets? I'm not sure about that, I don't know most of them, I know a hand full. I will say the ones I know and ones I meet would generally be of the opinion that international tickets are getting bloody expensive, I certainly don't meet many telling me how super reasonable they are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,791 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    If the IRFU continually runs a deficit and voluntarily declines additional revenue, it won’t stay “minted” for long



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    IRFU are not completely minted. And international games, in particular home games make up around 75-80 percent of the IRFUs income so they cant just reduce prices as that has extensive effect on the rest of the game in the country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,315 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I think at this stage we all know the income from the national team is the main source of income for the IRFU and rugby throughout the country.

    The question amongst rugby fans is, can the tickets be cheaper? Maybe they could charge a bit more on corporate tickets to make up the difference.

    Let's say they add 10% or 15% to the price of tickets year on year for the next few years are we supposed to keep saying, well as it's the main source of income we have to suck it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭OldRio


    It's not about being wealthy. You don't need to be wealthy to pay 120 or even 150 euro, once a year, to see a rugby match. Most people drop that on a dinner with the wife and a couple of beers on a Saturday night.

    'Most people' is doing an awful lot of lifting' in that remark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Anyone bringing the wife out for dinner and beers in Dublin is easily hitting that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,080 ✭✭✭✭The Iron Giant


    A pair of tickets to the game and even stadium food would be upwards of €400. Completely disingenuous to compare it to a night out for dinner for two people unless we're all eating in Michelin star restaurants these days. And for what it's worth, €100-€150 generally wouldn't even get you a single ticket.

    If people are genuinely arguing that you don't need to be wealthy to, for example, bring your kid to an Ireland game, then they are living in a bubble. It's a significant amount of money to drop to spend 90 minutes in a stadium and 'most people' don't have that lying around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Ah there's no doubt they're gone ridiculously expensive. I can buy them as corporate tickets, but I don't bother anymore because of the price. But look, if they're selling them, then they're priced correctly to maximise revenue.

    Just like the football though, where tickets were like hens teeth in the late 90s/2000s, this is highly unlikely to last forever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,791 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I suppose 'wealthy' is a relative term.

    I don't consider myself wealthy but I can pony up 120 quid for an Ireland match if I want to and the kids don't go without shoes as a result. In one of the richest countries in the world, for a sport that is almost entirely followed by middle-class (and above) people, I refuse to believe I'm a massive outlier. People might go full Helen Lovejoy on that but it's the truth, and the full houses at the Aviva every week would seem to back me up.

    Going to international matches is a luxury purchase. You don't need to go, and if you're in a position where you can't afford to go to a match at those prices, fair enough, but then any reduction that is remotely possible won't change that value proposition for you. If you cannot afford to go to a rugby match at 120 per seat, then you absolutely cannot afford to go to a match for 90 euro either, and anyone hoping for 6N tickets in the 50 euro range needs to come around to reality.

    Now, I wouldn't dream of bringing my kids and a gaggle of their friends to a 6N game, that's what provincial matches are for. We are absolutely blessed in Ireland to be able to see world-class players in the flesh for half-nothing, and I wouldn't pay 120 for my kids to lose interest and get their book out halfway through. I can still afford it, there's just no value in it for me.

    Like, I paid 100 euro to see The Prodigy this summer, but there's no way I'm paying 100 euro to see Shania Twain. They're both outdoor concerts, they're both the same price, but they aren't the same value to me. So if other people don't see value in an Ireland game for themselves at these prices and don't want to pay them, I totally understand that.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,924 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    i was told by an auctioneer years ago that "the value of something is what someone is willing to pay for it"

    Ireland games are pretty much always sold out. with the bigger games practically never going to public sale.

    from that point of view you could almost argue that Ireland rugby tickets are undervalued.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭OldRio


    But Dublin isn't Most is it?

    I've just read some of the other posts above. Someone mentioned 'bubble' Absolutely spot on. 'Team of us' is marketing I know but surely it should be changed to 'Team of the few and we like it that way'



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭antfin


    There's very few parts of the country where a decent meal, a bottle wine and three or four drinks in a bar afterwards and a taxi home won't set you back at least €200 for two people, unless your limiting your partners night out to a cheap carvery or early bird in the local hotel accompanied by tap water followed by pints of the cheapest beer available in the bar!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,080 ✭✭✭✭The Iron Giant


    Price and value are not the same thing. Something can be pocket change or a fortune depending on the circumstances of the person paying it - it doesn't change that the ticket is very expensive. And at ~€350-€400 for a pair of tickets and attendance at a game, you are showing your privilege if you claim that is 'the price of a dinner'. A ticket is approximately 7% of the median Irish monthly salary, which is significant.

    Value is entirely fundamental to the person and you'd have to ask each and every person in the stadium to determine if its valuable or not - and let's be honest, the stadium is chock-full of people who didn't pay a penny. Price however, is arbitrary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭antfin


    It's difficult to compare value and the value in terms of a ticket for rugby is difficult to gauge until after the event. Rather than just buying tickets to all of the games I try to attend just a few Irish home games per year (maybe buy tickets for 2 or 3 homes games and get invited to 1 or 2). But if I'm buying tickets I focus more on getting a pair for the big games against SA, New Zealand, Australia, England, France etc and then whichever of the home Six Nations games might be best in a given year. This year I chose France away and Scotland at home in terms of trying to pre-empt the "good" competitive games. I don't tend to look at the price too much and I just try to get the best seats possible, whether premium or Cat A or Cat B. However, the days of getting tickets to every home game are probably behind me due to the cost involved and also because I like to be at home sometimes to watch 2 or 3 matches in a row which is difficult when attending in person.

    More often than not I come away happy to have spent the money so I guess it was good value. Other times it might be less good value due to what happens on the field or occassionally when you end up in a bad row with people in and out throughout the match.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭OldRio


    You must eat out regularly to garnish such knowledge re the prices in restaurants of the entire country. I see you've added taxi fares to bump things up a bit.

    So let's bump things up for most of the country to go to a six nations.. Tickets for 2 about 300 euro ish. Transport to Dublin. Depends of course but 50 euro ish. Food, well of course I agree with you. No cavalry or tap water for herself. So 200 with drinks. Overnight stay.....i don't really know but. 300 euro ish.

    So 850 euro for 2. Well if you're middle class, as was mentioned in the thread it's grand. But for others????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭antfin


    A rugby day out wouldn't usually involve as much expense on dinner (for me anyway), a quick burger in a bar or fish & chips so maybe €20 each, although €200 probably wouldn't get you much change on drinks alone these days, especially if your going with someone fond of a G&T or something like that so you're talking over €20 per round for 2 drinks! Overall, the ticket itself usually ends up being maybe half the expense of the day out if you're making a day of it (assuming no hotel) so in that sense I don't think they're overcharging for the "main event" that many are building a day around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Well we differ. I think it's shocking but if people pay it isn't going to get cheaper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭50HX


    Its not just down to being able to afford it or not.

    It's a bug bearer of mine that we irish just accept price increases on things like these, sure if I don't go someone else will & the point will be lost on my stand of not paying for it approach.

    There's also a cohort of people who can afford but just choose not to be rode by prices.

    Price of a pint is another example



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,476 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    I usually do my best to go to a few of the home 6N Ireland games and Autumn Internationals, last November I didnt because of the price. I 'can' afford it, but I just couldn't justify spending that sort of money on the tickets and day out etc. I'd rather spend that sort of money on a weekend away for the 6 nations, I generally do both. But for this year I just felt it was a tipping point price wise. Would love to bring my son the weekend to the Scotland game, but its crazy money, I'll bring him to a some of the European Cup games instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    On the scrounge for one single if anyone has to spare



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,791 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Its not just down to being able to afford it or not.

    That's exactly my point though. The idea that matches are only accessible to the elite is nonsense. They're expensive but they're not exactly Superbowl pricing either. The vast majority who want to spend that, can.

    Price of a pint is another example

    Well yes, we live in a high wage, high cost economy which is good and bad. The price of a pint is still very low compared to most other cities, but a lot higher than it used to be, so not sure what the 'right' price is.

    But a poster above says that most of the country has to spend €850 per couple on a trip to a 6N game. In a best-case scenario and ticket prices are slashed, the cost of that trip comes down to €800. If you can't afford 850, you can't afford 800 either, but the IRFU still takes a massive financial hit. For what?

    My take on it is charge what the market will bear, because we need the money to fund the game.



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