US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

There are many claims about the numbers of deaths.

You are choosing to believe the numbers put out by the monstrous Iranian regime who killed their own people.

https://time.com/7357635/more-than-30000-killed-in-iran-say-senior-officials/

"As many as 30,000 people could have been killed in the streets of Iran on Jan. 8 and 9 alone, two senior officials of the country’s Ministry of Health told TIME……….The Health Ministry’s two-day figure roughly aligns with a count gathered by physicians and first responders, and also shared with TIME. That surreptitious tally of deaths recorded by hospitals stood at 30,304 as of Friday, according to Dr. Amir Parasta, a German-Iranian eye surgeon who prepared a report of the data."

"As of Saturday, the U.S.-based Human Rights Activists News Agency said it had confirmed 5,459 deaths and is investigating 17,031 more."

Think I will stick with the "reported 30,000 deaths" given the evidence in Time Magazine.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

"Estimates of the number killed vary substantially, hampered by the ongoing internet shutdown. The Iranian government has acknowledged more than 3,000 dead, and the US-based organisation HRANA (Human Rights Activists News Agency), whose figures have been reliable during previous crackdowns, says it has verified more than 6,000 dead and has more than 17,000 more recorded deaths under investigation, giving a possible total of about 22,000. Other estimates from doctors based outside Iran range up to 33,000 or more.

Testimony from morgues, graveyards and hospitals around the country reveal concerted efforts by authorities to conceal the true size of the toll: bodies being transported in ice-cream vans and meat trucks; piles of the dead being hastily buried; and hundreds of bodies apparently disappearing from Iran’s network of forensic facilities."

Yeah, that right-wing Guardian settling on 30,000 as well.

Do you want to double-down and accept the numbers from the Iranian government, the government that shut off the internet so its citizens couldn't tell the world what was being done to them.

Very true. I saw reports in X, I’m not sure how accurate they are, about a park being bombed, because it was called “Police Park”. The insinuation was that it had been targeted by AI.

I never understood the whole Iranian Nuke threat, especially considering if the motive for hitting Israel is to protect those Israel is mistreating, because then everyone gets wiped out.

We've had thirty years of usually Israeli "intelligence" sources asserting that Iran is about to get the bomb, any day now, and no one in the western media questions the inconsistencies of these allegations.

What's most hilarious is when you view it from the Iranian point of view the US has attempted to bribe you to play along with this charade, "here's money if you stop developing nuclear capabilities." I'd know it's almost pointless playing along because Israel will repeat the allegations every time they want to murder another few thousand Palestinians.

But now thanks to Trump the whole charade has been punctured. Trump nuts in Texas don't really care what happens in the world as long as the gas tank of their Ford F150 is cheap to fill. Trump could blame Obama for the current spike and most Trump voters will believe him, and then say "thank god that black woman didn't get in" when Trump taco leads to an oil price drop.

One of the rationales going for boots on the ground

Commando Raid To Secure Iran's Enriched Uranium May Become A Very Risky Necessity

No doubt Netanyahu is focused on that and would expect the Americans to be involved.

Sorry can you point out anywhere I said I believed the numbers put out by the Iranian regime?

That's something else you'll have to retract like your claim that 168 people were murdered in a school from a failed Iranian missile.

Will you retract both false statements?

I am left wondering would they get the same support in Ireland that they got in Australia.

Why wouldn't they? Australia are hardly know for their compassion for Refugees, where as Ireland has taken in 80,000 war refugees.

Daft thing to wonder.

Some people just want to be outraged by hypothetical situations that they have invented in their mind.

Lindsey Graham

“When this regime goes down, we are going to have a new Middle East, and we are going to make a tonne of money,” Graham, a longtime proponent of US military intervention abroad, told Fox News on Sunday.

“Venezuela and Iran have 31 percent of the world’s oil reserves. We’re going to have a partnership with 31 percent of the known reserves. This is China’s nightmare. This is a good investment,” said Graham.

Not daft at all, given the attitude of support towards Iran shown by many.

They were unable to independently verify any figures, yet I have been accused of mistruths when repeating the 33,000 figure, unless of course you believe the official Iranian sources.

Only China's nightmare will become the US's nightmare. Anyway wouldn't listen to that guy, he'll literally more demented than Trump.

So we are on the same page, we both believe that c 30,000 civilians were killed by their own government in Iran.

Apologies for suggesting anything different.

You can't remain on the fence on the number who have died at the hands of the Iranian government in January, yet demand that I come off the fence on something that happened last week.