Kilkenny GAA Thread

That hiding has been coming with months, only papering over the cracks it has been with a while, they lost to Carlow before the league started and the state of Carlow! No structure and no game plan has been evident with a long time! The last thing won underage was the Tony Forristal in 2024, I think one trophy was won underage last year and that was some leinster under 14 competition. Serious lack of proper facilities in the county, having to travel to Carlow for training and games and now cant even drink the water in Dunmore anymore!

I suppose the warning signs have been in place . Losing against Carlow, really struggled past Offaly and Kildare. Let's hope the meeting in Nowlan Park yesterday was productive. Need to draw a line over that and move on

Just wondering why you think the last sentance is stupid ?

Are you satisfied with Derek as manager ? And if so Why ?

Just watched it back on TV for the first time and it didn’t get any better at the second time of watching it but the Kilkenny performance was only marginally worse than Colm Lyon’s performance…. he’s a very very poor referee.

Yeh a Waterford win leaves only us and Tipp on 4 points so whoever loses that Tipp/Kilkenny game would be relegated. Tipp have better scoring average so only a win for us would be enough to stay up.

I sometimes wonder are players getting disillusioned with the lack of Kilkenny support at games. I'm not stupid enough to think it's overly important, but Cork having at least 2/3rds of the 14k crowd in Nowlan Park last week, must be a huge psychological boost to their players. We looked outnumbered against Waterford as well. The less said about the attendance at the Minor and U20 All Irelands, the better.

Our issues are certainly on the field currently, and in the Co Board for years, but the rot seems to be setting in all over. I watched highlights of the 2013 league final v Tipp in Nowlan Park and the Kilkenny crowd there was massive. The apathy from the supporters over the last few years was finally matched by the players on the field Saturday. Was it only a matter of time before that happened?

Our support is an absolute embarrassment considering what we have achieved as a small county.

Derek can only do so much… players are as responsible for teams performance as management… 2012 all-ire final 1st half Galway were giving KK plenty of it.. winning well coming upto halftime.. Shefflin brought himself out from his corner forward position to win some ball which he did.. won a couple frees etc.. brought KK back into game.. present bunch havent those attributes… coach can instil so much into players.. but ultimately players win games…

Of course I understand what you meant and I know it wasn't in any way an attack on these players. I see what you mean. Unfortunately we were over reliant on lawlor as he is an outstanding full back. Billy had a good year last year aswell. Maybe there's something of a disconnect between management, county board and players. Not sure but I know eoin Cody is not a fan of lyng. These things happen the whole time but the players on the field must take up that responsibility themselves, regardless of who we have. As another poster said, when you put on the black and amber, at the very minimum you give 110%. Everyone wants to see the lads at the top of their game. Unfortunately at the minute, that's not happening but we must persist. What choices do we have?

You quote the stat KK won minor in '93 and not again until '02 leaving it at that , and you wonder how we managed a four in a row senior '06 to '09? We actually won minor in 90,91,93,'02,'03,08 10 and even more crucially under 21 in '90,94,99,'03,'04,06,'08.Practically every single squad member of the 4 in a row had minor and/or u21 AI medals. Every one of the above teams contained players we had heard about from u14, DJ, Henry,Cha, TJ, Tommy, Jj,Richie's Power,Hogan etc,etc. That dried up from '15 on with the odd exception. The current squad have done remarkably well to get so close in recent years. Huw in particular and Billy's absence this year cannot be underestimated and leaves us vulnerable to every team including those in Leinster. I was there on Saturday evening and left no less demoralised than anyone else. The display was wholly unacceptable from all involved. The least we expect is everything to be left out on the field. For the first time I can recall that wasn't there Sat night. I honestly hope it was fatigue from three tough games in a row and we won't see a repeat.

Was that written by chatgpt?

the crowds won’t go unless the results are good.I only got to the Offaly match this year but I was at the challenge matches earlier against Tipp and Laois, I even went to Mullingar, but serious illness has curtailed me recently but my comrades tell me a lot of the diehard regulars are falling away. Clubber is going to do awful damage, when the public are watching from their own homes they soon forget about how exciting it is to be at a live game and stop going. TV rights has or nearly killed several sports throughout the world, then when the viewing public is saturated with the sport they get fed up then the TV companies get the games for very little then everything collapses and if the public stop going you won’t get them back.

Firstly sorry to read of your health issues and hope you are soon restored to full health. I see clubber ,tg4 stream etc as wonderful developments. Nothing beats being there and I would always choose that. However you can't be in more than the one place, so for a reasonable subscription we can watch back so many other games including Kierans win at the weekend. The people that p**s me off are those who dodgy box these services, don't support club or county but feel free to let rip when their team " doesn"t show up". As supporters we all lose far more than we win. You get nothing for nothing,, so if you really want your team to get back winning do your bit if you can and support them and earn the right to have your say. For too long now I feel as a hurling county we have let ourselves down in how little we support ALL our teams.

Completely agree with all of that.

Re the throwing the sliotar, even if the hand passes were being executed properly, there's still just too much of it

Firstly wishing you all the best, hope your back to good fettle soon, Clubber has given people living abroad a connection to home and elderly unable to attend games a chance to see them, TV coverage doesn't do damage, every Munster championship game is live on either RTE or GAA PLUS, League of Ireland soccer is the perfect example, every game is available to watch now from home but it's still getting it's best crowds in years. The reason Leinster championship is getting poor attendances is Galway, Dublin and Wexford generally the last 3 years or so have been off the mark.

I think myself people find ut hard to get too excited about the league matches in bad weather. Plus it goes on too long. With the condensed season there's more hurling played in heavy conditions than with the sun shining.

"Players need to put the all stars aside and start hurling"

how many all stars in the panel actually?