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Plant & Weed ID Megathread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Would whoever gave you the trees have any idea?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Sorry not a chance. Ash opposite buds, we are good there, but the bunds on ash are always black.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Guelder Rose is not implausible, but the more I go back and look again at the OP's photograph the more I'm convinced they are Sycamore. I've pulled up just so many that its a gut feeling. But wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.

    Guelder Rose twig (not a seedling) - from https://www.saps.org.uk/trees/list.htm

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    The problem here is that most if not all the pictures you can find via google are of buds on mature twigs which differ somewhat from the seedlings.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Don't think they can be anything other than Sycamore just based on how common Sycamore is?

    common as bare root plants? do people buy sycamore bare root?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭macraignil


    I'd be surprised if the flowers continued to be white if you went on to grow the currant cuttings into normally grown plants. Pigment production for the flowers I'd guess has just been shut down in the plants pictured due to the abnormal growth conditions they are in and once they are returned to a more normal physiological setting of growing with roots, stems and leaves and plants settled in soil, the pigment producing enzyme pathways would once again be active and produce the flower colour pigments that help give the plants their normal flower colour. As far as I understand plant genetics, mutation to make the flowers in multiple cuttings now genetically devoid of colour simply from the process of taking cuttings would be highly unlikely.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Plenty available if you go looking for them but mostly 2-3ft whips and larger.

    They are very common as bare root plants when I pull hundreds up each spring ;-)

    I noticed a good few nurseries think the Norway maple is an "Irish native" (no it isn't) so thats another possible.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Yes,that's what I was thinking (without the technical bits 😁).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭standardg60


    I foresee any experiment oncoming. Has said cutting produced roots looksee?

    Plant it out if so, some cuttings can naturally lose the ability to produce pigment from environmental changes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    No, no roots, though it is still looking very lively. Its been in just 2 weeks so barely time for roots, I will do some sorting out and cutting up and see what happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭LeoD


    Thought I had weeds growing out of this pot for the last few weeks so had been pulling them out. Only after realising today that I planted Anemone bulbs here last year. Textbook clueless gardener…🤡

    (edit) I hadn't seen the flowers until today as I was so quick to weed whenever leaves appeared - that's when th epenny finally dropped

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I have a rule that I never pull a 'weed' until I can identify it. After a few years you get to learn to identify weed seedlings fairly well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭LeoD


    In hindsight my ignorance was comical because when I was pulling them I couldn't believe how long the stems were and I could never get to the root. A complete and utter gardening moron me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    That's one mistake you'll never again make and, I'm sure people have learnt from reading your story. I love the Anemone flower, and it is a reliable perennial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,125 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Sorry about the terrible pics but any ideas?

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    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I'd hazard a guess that it might be a willow of some kind?

    Cancel that thinking about it then checking outside with a torch I can be more positive more likely an Alder. Probably Alnus Glutinosa?

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,125 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Sorry im actually thinking I might have asked this last year? It rings a bell someone suggesting it might be a tree of some sort although my memory is terrible. I'll have a check back through my previous pics!

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    It does look like an alder - ask again when the leaves have fully emerged. Did you plant it? Alders grow into fairly big trees, and tbh not all that interesting for an urban garden. They also have very extensive, aggressive roots that have been known to get into water pipes, and they draw water from all around them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,125 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    No it's not planted and just appeared in a small flower bed right beside the neighbours wall so definitely not a great spot for a tree

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    It is indeed an alder, Alnus glutinosa. Likely to have found its way into your garden from the wilds. A much maligned tree, I have developed a real fondness for them, although for reasons already stated above, they're better left "in the wild" to do what they do best... they love their feet in very moist soil along water courses, and help stabilise river banks, provide vital shade to rivers in summer, and at this time of year, are a great early stash of pollen for insects that are venturing out after winter 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,125 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    I found this pic from last May, would this be it?

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    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Yes that's Alder, see the way the leaf is 'flat' at the tip, its very similar to a hazel leaf but the hazel comes to a point. I think I would take it out, if you know someone with a more suitable site it would move now, not once it has come into leaf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,125 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Cheers I'll get it up so

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭LeoD


    Yeah might not suit a small urban garden…(from Tree Council of Ireland website)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    They hold those cone thingies all winter so that the silhuette doesn't really look like the drawing. They tend to look cluttered to me, not my favourite tree and I have half a dozen of them! Two mature trees about about 3 metres and 5 metres away from the septic tank/water treatment system, which have not caused any problems yet, but I have my eye on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,530 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Would an Alder do well in boggy paddock soil? Ours is a thin layer of topsoil over clay, and it waterlogged a lot in parts of the yard. At least one doesn't have any sub-surface wiring or pipes, and I'm wondering if Alder would keep it drier.

    Lived for 10 years in the PNW. Alders everywhere. The cones are actually sold, dried, to acidify water in aquariums. The fish seem to like them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Alder does well in those sort of coditions as do willows.

    Happy gardening!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,125 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    A few strangers if anyone knows what they are and if they need pulling please?

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    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Number 1 looks familiar but I can't think what it is.

    Number 2 is Rosebay Willowherb which is pretty but will spread all over your garden, pull it out.

    Number 4 looks like foxglove, they get a pass from me, can grow wherever they want!



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    The first one looks like astilbe (a flower), the second is a weed with pink flowers (I can never, ever remember its name), the third one looks like foxglove (a flower).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Agree with you on two and three. I think the first one may be a young bramble and the stem starting to get a bit prickly will help confirm the identity if it is let grow a bit longer.



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