Roy Keane and Saipan row - The Movie!

Saw the movie last week, quite clear all were afraid or in awe of Keane who was not treated as a normal player but up high on a pedestal and all walking around him being polite but whispering, even Delaney kept away as he tried to control everything else.

Keane, as a pro, was certainly right, he did not spare anyone for amateurish ways and all right on the night stuff.

McCarthy should have backed down and the "I'm sending you home" was like a belated joke.

Somene should have given Delaney a slap, as he tried to be the teflon man and walk away from responsibilities.

I knew Jim "Seamus" McDonagh and he used to same the same about piss-ups, first 2 days were heavy going, they used to get printed rebel song sheets to Irishfy them.

tis on 'alternative' sites there now, looking forward to it

Watched it over the weekend. It was fine. A frustrating film probably driven the frustration of reliving the story.

First question I have on it though, is who thre assistant manager was supposed to be? Not Peter McDonald's Mick Byrne, but the other fella. Ian Evans was Welshand had a tache and was not him in the movie

Yes he did let rip at him, according to multiple people who were at it, Quinn, for one said it was a 10 minute berating of Mick tearing him apart. All deny that he called Mick an "English cúnt" but he apparently did call him a liar and a wánker and use the line "I didn't rate you as a player, I don't rate you as a manager, and I don't rate you as a person... You can stick your World Cup up your arse".

I really enjoyed the film, Hardwicke played Keane superbly. Coogan while he got the accent right and some of the mannerisms was just too old to play McCarthy. The physical size difference between the 2 leads was an issue for me (as someone who knew a lot about it before watchin) My partner on the other hand who knew nothing at all about it said she just felt sorry for McCarthy as he was just "an old man trying his best being bullied by a bigger man".

Some artistic license taken that I could understand but didn't like them adding McCarthy calling Keane the night before asking him to come back, just nonsensical.

Saipan didn't host the world cup. That was in Japan and South Korea.

Saipan is a small island in the Pacific. Why they picked Saipan to acclimatize, I don't know. It's a 3 - 5 hour flight from Japan or South Korea. Not really a situation of heading down to the local sports shop.

It's very close to Japan.

Only 2 letters away.

and we even won the world cup, twas feckin great!

I celebrated every goal that we scored as if we had won the World Cup, I was only 10.

The movie had me angry at the what could have been if the FAI was actually competent and took it in anyway seriously.

Sorry I had thought Saipan was a co-host of it. Makes even less sense now.

Most likely to save a few bob, meanwhile the management flew first class and were having smoked salmon sandwiches when the players got galtee.

We may never know what kind of cheese it was. Lidl was in Ireland by then so probably something out of Lidl. Cheese is not big in Saipan, only artisanal type ones. I wonder if it had been Deeny's ham sandwiches, would there have been such furore over it?

The whole thing would remind you of an episode of The Apprentice, where the client has paid 500 a head for their corporate away day and been promised a gastronomical feast, and they end up serving them sandwiches and a side of crisps.

Roy Keane is a cunt. He's always been a cunt. On top of that, he's a dirty cunt.

However, his complaints about the conditions the FAI were offering our national team were more often than not correct.

As much as I dont want to give Eamon Dunphy money, I think I will have to read Keane: The Autobiograhy. I'm not expecting an impartial account of what happened, but reading in detail just how incompetent the FAI were would be amusing.

I have not read it and will put it on my to-read list.

I do admire people who feather their own nest and who bend or outright break the rules.

To use the old adage, a person is like a teabag, you never find out how strong they are until you put them in hot water.

The comparison I like to make is Bertie to Brian Cowen and that disastrous interview he, BC, gave to the press after the FF ard fheis. I really could not give a hoot that he had a few pints after the ard fheis, I am bothered by the fact he didn't have the wherewithal to make it past the press until he'd had a pot of coffee and a full irish breakfast. Did the hotel not do room service? Could they not make an exception for the taoiseach?

Similarly, I wouldn't care, and indeed, selling stuff on the Polish black market sounds quite creative, but the reason I get annoyed with the FAI, is that they failed so badly in doing the basics.