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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,170 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Are you not contradicting yourself there? You said hurling is in a great place to watch but yet call out the throwing of the ball and steps? So rules are been broken consistently,and you find that great to watch? Why have rules at all so? Just throw in the ball and let them off.

    Do you like looking at rucks of players rooting and tearing trying to win the ball? Plenty times the ref has to blow his whistle and throw the ball in. Teams consistently getting between 30-40 scores in a game. Players passing the ball 5 yards to a teammate that is been marked. Its basketball with hurleys imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭thamus doku


    In my opinion the standard of hurling last few years is unreal stuff.
    let’s not get hung up on the throw ball as personally I would allow throwing of the ball. If you are going to ref the hand pass strictly you will end up with a game that is even more physical and pulling and dragging. I get why people don’t like the throw, I don’t, but the throw means players can get just get rid of the ball quickly and avoid being swamped.

    I was at the tipp Limerick game and as a tipp supporter I have no problem staying the quality of points Limerick got that night was brilliant.
    the quality of hurling in general has never been as good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,676 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Im not denying they do that at all.

    But that's smart cheating. You get away with 90% and at worst give a free.

    Dumb cheating is striking heads and starting fights. It's terribly obvious, gets you no advantage and has a high risk of cards.

    Notorious is the right word for Hegarty. Constantly singled out and usually proven right on replay. Hegarty will take 10 dirty belts a game for everyone he gives out. Same as most forwards.

    Limerick have had their problems and young Gillane was terrible for the kind of stupid senseless stuff I am talking about when he would retaliate.

    Limerick do try deal with it though where as O'Coonor is out acting the hard man calling the rest of us snowflakes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭guanciale


    Dont see the contradiction, life aint that black and white.

    As a spectacle I think the game is by and large better than ever to watch.


    why - skills are better than ever in my view. Speed is faster than ever and hits are bigger. I love all that. My kids teams are trained to a higher skills standard than we ever were - where the emphasis was drive it long and dont be holding on ball.

    I think some rules need to change as its not possible to ref them. But I would call for stricter enforcement of steps. On handpass / throws - if you killed it I reckon we'd have more rucks not fewer.

    I get that you and several dont like how game has evolved, but most fans I know going to county and club game disagree. But that's. good, we dont all need the same view



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,170 ✭✭✭giveitholly




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,564 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Very impressed with Kildare so far. Down a few regulars but tigerish in defence and free scoring up front. Definitely a level above where they were last year.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭puntosporting


    Hurling us in a great spot right now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,676 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I know Carlow won't beat Dublin but the fact Kildare are still technically in with a chance of promotion is very promising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    It Was Corks corner back Sean O Donoghue who went holding his balls last year after Mccarthy dunted him into the chest. He knew pretending he got hit in the balls would mean a sending off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭terryrogers


    To explain the contradiction another way for you so… I love watching formula 1, but it'd be a much faster and possibly more exciting spectacle if they just allowed the drivers to go straight through chicanes wouldn't it?... But what would be the point.

    Same point applies to modern possession dominated hurling... people saying it is a better spectacle nowadays, when the blight of steps and throwing are worse than ever, can't really claim to truly understand the game/rules IMO.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,764 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Yes, I even said it at the time. Im not talking about one incident im talking about years of it creeping in.

    Limerick or Cork didn't invent it in 2022 or something.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    I absolutely love the modern game. I would pay a big premium, if I had to, for any of the munster championship games, I could attend, not just the Clare games. The interest in hurling in munster is incredible at the moment. It's not Munsters problem that the standard of hurling in Leinster is dire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    What's the quality of Leinster v Munster got to do with throwing the ball?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭supernova5


    I just looked at the Leinster Championship scheduling and Kildare play Wexford in the first round in Newbridge, provided Kildare have no major injuries that to me looks like a very tricky assignment indeed for Wexford



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Imeall an cearnóg


    I think people forget the excitement of the ball being actually being in play and contested for multiple minute spells at a time, the ball being flung over the shoulder to be contested by two players at the other end of the pitch only for one to eventually burst out with it, and to a huge roar from the crowd, open the shoulders and drive it to the other end to be contested all over again, the type of excitement where when it settles for a moment, you find that you have been unconsciously leaning in on top of whoever happened to be seated in the next seat, friend or foe.

    Yeah it may look primitive in some ways now and we all know why in a possession focused game it no longer occurs, but don't try to tell that the game today is a good as a spectacle it once was.

    Short puck out -> run (steps) -> throw -> brick flick -> run (steps) throw -> dropped ball -> ruck -> 6 attempted rises stopped using the spare hand but eventually a successful rise -> three man choke tackle -> overhand throw out of the choke tackle -> ruck -> attempted throw stopped by spare arm -> ruck -> rise -> run (steps) -> tackle (duck and dive to make it look high) -> free -> fist pump ("in-tin-city") -> free over the bar from 120 yards into the wind -> wait for the goalkeeper to begin the next ten second sequence of play before a free or a wide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,676 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ffs is there not another thread for all this round and round and round tedious throw ball sht. Some people here don't actually want to talk about the games on this weekend at all.

    Leinster always plan their championship games and have put Kildare vs Offaly on last day as a relegation battle.

    It probably will be because of head to head but I reckon by then Kkldare will be hot favourites to stay up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Imeall an cearnóg


    In your very last post before this one, you were outlining how Limerick's throwing is smart cheating??



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,918 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    When Cork do things wrong, they are breaking every rule in the book, showing their cockiness, being too soft, being too dirty etc but for Limerick folk, it is merely smart cheating and the 'notorious' Hegarty is more sinned against than sinning. You get used to it.

    The Limerick v Galway game is one I really am looking forward to. Limerick are 'back' - as if they were ever gone away. They will feel they are in a good place and must see themselves as in with a great chance of winning Liam again. Galway look like they could well be the best non Munster team in with a chance. I'm a bit surprised they are 2/1 to win Leinster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,676 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    When you win 5 All Irelands you are doing things right.

    I had years of Limerick fans complaining we were losing to cheating Cork and cheating Kilkenny. Limerick fans couldn't see thar Limerick were the problem.

    Right now Cork are being utterly stupid about how they go about things in an attempt to look hard.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,918 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    So, when cheating Cork and cheating Kilkenny win…. they were cheating.

    When Limerick win, they are doing things right….. gotcha.

    You keep trying to sell a narrative that Cork are trying to play a certain way in an attempt 'to look hard' and are being utterly stupid - I find that rather amusing to be honest. Plenty of 'attempts to be hard' can be found in the Limerick camp in their '5 all Irelands' but sure, they were doing things 'right'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,676 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    No they were all right. Limerick fans btched because they were losing and now other fans do.

    I know Cork are playing a certain way by using my eyes and also my ears because the manager is literally spelling it out.

    If you can't understand how the team who won 5 All Irelands are doing things right and the team who lost 2 are doing it wrong then I don't know what more to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,882 ✭✭✭threeball


    You can get rid of the ball quickly with a handpass too, it takes a millisecond more to do it properly. If we take this attitude to every rule then it becomes a free for all.

    Refs won't give frees as its pretty much handing that team a score. In my opinion they need to change the steps rule. 4 is unworkable once in any sort of contact. Extend it to 6 but be strict on enforcement. All technical fouls should be indirect frees. Only give direct frees for physical fouls. 65s that go over the line outside the box indirect, those that cross the endline in the box could be direct. More time with ball in play. Reduce the influence of the free taker.

    Get strict on slapping a lads elbow, shoulder or hand. If you can't reach the ball you shouldn't be slapping with the hurl. Same with slapping over the shoulder, its a clear downward strike or chop and its never pulled up.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,918 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    So you are saying that Cork are doing the right thing but the wrong way? They simply need to be more like Limerick and their 5 All Irelands.

    I'm not too worried about the style of Corks play - I will leave that to you and others. Ben has ignited them and there is no harm at all in that - he really seems to have irked a fair few others, which is no harm at all either.

    I've seen plenty of Cork teams win and lose All Irelands and this current squad look as if they will be there or thereabouts for a while yet, I'm happy with that. Being in real contention to win Liam every year is what it's all about. You gotta be in it to win it and Cork most certainly are, co-favourites I believe this year. I'm sure Cork will eventually get over the line and when they do, their style won't be too much of a concern for me to be honest. Until that happens, they are bringing alot of joy to Leesiders and long may that continue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭sliabh 1956


    Has everyone forgotten about Cody's teams he was the man who perfected all this strong arm stuff. To accuse one team of being the only practitioner of these Dark Arts is plain silly every game you watch these days you have players buying cheap frees and using the hurley liberally. I can see the GAA clamping down on it eventually because its getting worse year by year . For years Cork were mocked for being soft now that they are giving it back in spades they are being castigated from all sides, you can't win



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,882 ✭✭✭threeball


    Where did i blame one team. I said it needs to be outlawed across the game. Right now Limerick and Cork are the worst proponents of it but not the only ones. KK played the opposite side of the law for years and it was ignored. When counties get away with ignoring the rules, everyone else does it to try to keep up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,879 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I'm a bit surprised they are 2/1 to win Leinster.

    We shouldn't read too much into Saturday nights result. Galway haven't won Leinster in nearly 8 years. On multiple occasions, with a stronger squad than they have today, they embarrassed themselves against Kilkenny in Croke park later in the year.

    Kilkenny will canter to their usual Leinster title this year and subsequent AI semi final appearance at least



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Cork will rack up a big score in every game they play.. they have the firepower to do it… Corks problem is keeping the score at the other end down… apart from the new guy at fullback who looks the part to be fair.. not much has changed under Ben.. Cork are still conceding too many scores…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Imeall an cearnóg


    Kilkenny just suffered their heaviest defeat since the 1950s, are missing probably their most important player and also their most inform forward of last year for the year, their remaining higher profile players are struggling for form, as a team they don't seem to playing with any common purpose, and its not as if they have loads of lads to come back and strengthen things. I think its safe to say things aren't good Noreside and I don't think previous years are indicative of how Kilkenny will go this year. I'd have them behind Galway and Dublin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,879 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Kilkenny will use the tripe talk writing them off now for motivation later on

    You laugh at me in June but neither Dublin or Galway will lay a glove on kilkenny. For the 8th year in a row



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,563 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Kildare have the slimmest of slimmest chances to get promotion to 1A. They bet Wexford and Dublin lose to Carlow



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