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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭vswr


    Looking at the SOF build up, it's looking likely there will be boots on the ground soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,266 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    These absolute lunatics have created a biblical prophecy and are trying to make it happen. ...it's insane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,137 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    There was no plan. A drunk meat head and a depraved old man with the attention span of a toddler are running the show. Incredible the same country that got bogged down in Vietnam and Iraq is about to repeat it with even less preparation.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,437 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Peace through strength US style. Probably sounds like something Hesgeth would come up with if true, " lets cut the water off to those 30 villages of goatherders HELL YA !"

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    ”even the Muslim countries don’t seem to care much”

    You will find it hard to find a Muslim majority country in the region who is a neighbour of Iran that has not been attacked by Iran in last week (Turkmenistan?)

    I say they care now alright, but not in way you would think



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,212 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    That's exactly what Israel did in Gaza. Went after the water supplies and desalination plants. Torturing and killing people using thirst/dehydration is much more effective than starvation.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    They destroyed agricultural fields too and solar farms. Short term disaster but, in the case of Gaza relying on supplies through the border crossings, no hope of replacing them for years either.

    Judging by the "targets" published so far, seems Israel and US are currently following the Gaza MO to a T.

    I expect medics, journalists, aid workers and sheep to be targeted next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭midlander12


    He was also apparently talking to Putin yesterday. I agree he has little power but most of those above him are dead, plus he is a relatively recent appointee and is seen as something of a 'moderate' in regime terms, and thus probably sees himself as having some hope of cutting a face-saving deal. I'm not saying this is in any way a realistic objective and of course his immediate answer was some further attacks on Gulf States targets by the IRGC, plus a statement from the Foreign Minister effectively disavowing what he said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭midlander12


    If so, they would have been 'stopping' them a week ago when the first missiles landed. These states, or some of them, may be trying to create some sort of off-ramp for both Trump and what's left of the regime, which in turn may or may not explain Pezeshkian's comments today. But there's zero chance they'll stop the US using these bases



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭midlander12


    We must indeed have been asleep if no one expected that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I’m not blaming Europe for thinking we were living in relative peaceful times - but the line has been drawn now. From here on in, as the world increases in temperature, as rare earth minerals become more significant for “normality” - we can’t take anything for granted - and that includes European peace inclusion and commitment to remain as one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    They should rename em after card suites and names



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    It's a bit rich saying that people don't understand energy when you neither understand how generation or markets work. Nuclear is only used for base load and complements both fossil and renewable peak generation. The loss of German nuclear

    Furthermore the reason our electricity is as expensive and why we haven't seen a renewable dividend is because of the marginal pricing method used: we pay gas prices for renewables. There is a good argument for this to be dropped.

    Ultimately moving to an energy system that's founded on energy derived from within European borders and has prices set within European borders is far preferable to one that's based on the whims of a global fossil fuel market. This is the way forward for strategic European autonomy.

    Arguing to remain dependent on fossil fuel as you have just leaves us exposed, dependent and subservient to the whims of oligarchs, autocrats, demagogues and oil barons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,875 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/07/dozens-killed-in-lebanon-as-israel-searches-for-signs-of-navigator-missing-for-40-years-00818072

    Am I reading that correct?

    Israel kills 41, and wounds 40, blowing up a town in Lebanon searching for some bones from someone who died 40 years ago?

    Their insanity knows no end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭rapul


    Yes you're reading correct. And they didn't even find what they were looking for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Engaging with regular Lebanese army as well as Hezbollah seems absolutely inexcusable even by Israel's non-existant standards for these sort of operations.

    I mean I think this says it all.

    “Our desire to know what happened to Ron stops the moment it endangers Israeli soldiers,” his wife, Tami, wrote on Facebook, noting that the family has said this multiple times through the years.

    “For 40 years we have lived with the fact that Ron is missing, and we want to know what happened to Ron, but not at any price. The sanctity of life is above any closing of the circle of certainty for us,” she added.

    Adraee said the Israeli force did not suffer any casualties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Similar to the IDF dressed as medics who assassinated a Palestinian in the hospital….


    "Lebanese army commander Gen. Rudolphe Haikal said later Friday that the Israeli force that conducted the operation was dressed in Lebanese army uniforms and used ambulances during the operation with signs of Hezbollah’s Islamic Health Organization."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭dePeatrick




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    What strikes me most about this event is the hypocrisy of the Israeli Govt. abandoning the hostages in Gaza and their families for over 2 years.

    The implementation of the Hannibal Directive on Oct 7th to kill scores of their own citizens fleeing to safety is enough to understand that no level is too low.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    It's so strange when a huge swathe of the US are 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants from Europe, and it is so important to their identity. Irish Americans, Italian Americans and so on.

    In 1795, there was a vote on whether national laws should be printed in German, which was defeated by 42 votes to 41.

    But to the present day, you can run into people who will tell you they are 'Irish', and they are multiple generations from an Irish born person. They genuinely subscribe to that identity, but there's a huge disconnect from reality.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭Ultimate Gowlbag


    The first flag draped coffins of US servicemen have arrived home,for world peace there'll need to be plane loads of them to hopefully make the wars unpalatable to even the dumbest of the american public!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I wonder how we are for 'rare earth minerals'... Maybe another reason to row in behind Ukraine 100%.

    Crazy world we are living in. Literally living through history now. Hopefully we won't have to all 'defend Europe' ourselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,875 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    You'd assume they could have just paid some local guy to dig up the bones secretly (apparently they had dug a hole assuming that's where the bones were).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    just posted by the BBC:

    "Donald Trump has just posted on his Truth Social messaging platform. 

    He says "the United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East". 

    "That’s OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we don’t need them any longer - But we will remember," Trump says. 

    "We don’t need people that join Wars after we’ve already won!" he adds."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I see Trump is showing his utmost respect to the fallen - in his white baseball cap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,530 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Perhaps. But Iran is well aware that the US has numerous assets in various positions in countries surrounding it. They'll want those countries to know that they can strike them and that they are not as weak as the general perception seems to be.

    It was Saudi Arabia, Oman and especially Qatar that put pressure on Trump last year to halt attacks in June, because they got hit by Iran on the 23rd. The next day Trump, who has numerous business and real estate interests in Qatar, put an end to attacks on Iran and put pressure in Israel to do the same. Iran's neighbours have no interest in seeing Trump and Netanyahu's war expanding to their borders. Over the last several months Netanyahu has been in the White House numerous times and, no doubt, has been putting a worm in Trump's ear about attacking Iran again and that she's weak. Trump also suspects that now is the time to row in behind Israel because he might not be able to do so after November.

    The Iranians are desperate. They have two of most destructive nations lining up to attack them, so any and all potentially viable strategies will be on the table, including trying to force Trump's hand by proxy because it worked the last time.

    Whether it works again is another matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,530 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    5,535 civilian residential units
    1,041 commercial units
    65 schools
    14 hospitals and medical centres
    13 Red Crescent Society bases

    Imagine the song and dance if these targets were on American soil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,180 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Is the Queen Elizabeth even currently deployable?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Iran and its proxies are responsible for a lot larger numbers than that in their neighbouring countries, indeed in their own country. Its unfortunate that it's mostly innocent civilians that get killed in wars and events like this. They are treated by both sides as collateral damage. Again an unfortunate way of describing and treating human lives. Ukraine has faced this from Russia also. Conflicts always have it. It will remain so I'm afraid.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,530 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Yep. A gigantic one.

    German is actually the largest ethnic group in the US. Trump is from a German background himself, and as you say you couldn't go twelve metres and not have someone over there tell you how "proud" they are of their ancestry.

    But Americans have been groomed for years by certain quarters to view the EU as an enemy, despite the fact that that it is an essential business partner that has been working well with them for decades.

    A lot of Americans may bang on about "the old country", even if they've never stepped foot in it. But never underestimate the propensity for some of them to hold wildly stupid opinions and stances that blatantly contradict other positions they may have. All you have to do is look at the so called "Christians" over there and the sheer nonsense that they come out with.

    As an anecdote, I ended up randomly talking to a guy in the US once and we got onto the subject of healthcare because topic had changed to the crazy cost of his insurance. I agreed that it was very high and that America should really look into changing how things are done over there with regards to that. Then he said that he thought that socialised medicine was "evil", which I'll admit sent me reeling. I decided not to pursue the topic any further. There would have been no point. This guy then asked me what I thought of Jesus Christ! It was all I could do to stop myself saying "Well, he's a guy would have agreed with socialised medicine".

    Thing is, these are the people in the ascendancy over there now. They are part of the demographic that the Republicans, MAGA and Trump wish to appeal to.

    And they number in the millions.



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