Kilkenny GAA Thread

So disheartening, pathetic

CCan't Remember a performance as bad as that in a long while. Every thing that could go wrong did go wrong. Only Cian Kenny had a performance above a 4 out of 10.

No fight at all which is so unlike us…. The players must still be feeling the effects of the illness that went through the panel. At least I hope thats the case.

Liam moore done ok and kenny did well the rest were so poor mossy and cody are meant to be 2 of the top forwards in the country and they were shocking.As for the backs you can't even rate them considering what their men scored. Carey will have to come out of 3 for sure

I can't remember many performances as poor as this, we were way off. So much space given to Galway. Touch and striking poor.

Not sure what can be said here. So many things wrong with that performance one would have to ask if there's an underlying issue in the camp? Maybe illness as some have said, maybe doing heavy training or maybe they are not hurling for the management? I don't know but one thing is for sure, the togetherness, unity and enjoyment of the game was nowhere to be seen this evening. We got a lesson, yes, but it was like a lesson a senior team would give a junior team. How could we be so bad? How is it we cannot win a ball in the forwards? We have the lowest scoring threat in div 1A. That includes Offaly. Something is not right. Lets hope it's turned around by the time we visit salthill in the middle of April. Shocking for lads that we know can actually hurl. Maybe someone closer to the group can answer this. Liam Moore, cian Kenny and maybe blanchfield stood up. I'm trying not to be overly critical but that's as bad as I've seen and I'm not a chap. Lyng has a serious job to do here. Let's hope he gets it done

Absolute humiliation, they looked lost and clueless and worst of all they gave up the fight.

The team has gone backwards this year. I would question what all of these new coaches have brought to things when our puck outs are worse, we have little or no scoring threat and our delivery of ball to the forwards is beyond terrible. Our movement as well looks really poor in comparison with all the teams we have played to date.

Our puck outs are no better this year, we lost 17 of our own puck outs tonight. We are trying to play a possession game with 1 man in the full forward line, it’s shocking to watch and we never created a goal chance. Centre back a big problem, full back the same but who fills those positions. Lyng needs to sort defence first.

What a terrible performance, flat, passive, toothless the list could go on. I do feel sympathy for Lyng at the end there at least he fronted up and answered questions.

We can criticise team selection, style of play etc but the absolute basic requirements as a player lucky enough to hurl for Kilkenny is attitude, application of effort and pure pride in the jersey unfortunately that was simply not there this evening to the dismay of all of us and seemingly Lyng. Everything that could go wrong went wrong, no doubt Lyng and management will have to review the preparation for the match but for me the players need a good look in the mirror, 3 weeks in a row is tough on players but I don’t think that’s a reasonable excuse for today.

Trying to look at this objectively and offer some sort of constructive commentary, based on all the matches this year we look terribly slow in all aspects… speed of strike, speed of foot and speed of touch. The whole forward unit, Moore excluded, looked unbelievably slow, coupled that with a Half Back Line that has big strong men but unfortunately lacking pace as well. You could argue that Billy Ryan is now just as big a loss as Huw, Billy had pure raw speed that carried a lot of weight on our Half Forward Line, with him gone now you can see the difference he made. Galway ran us ragged, we simply couldn’t live with their movement. Cork did the same last week but our application and attitude was right which papered over the cracks… in truth we should have got a good hiding from Cork last week as well but we fought for everything and showed some heart.

Big reaction required….

That is a very worrying display. I hope Liam is happy in Munster because I can't see him residing outside Liimerick, Cork, Tipp or Clare for the foreseeable.

Basic skills you expect from kk teams like fielding high ball under pressure, forwards out first and getting clean possession are the two big areas of concern for me. No spark at all. I hope lyng has it in him to get this turned around

Awful performance, there's a lot to question of both the players and the management.

Starting with the management. Galway started on the rebuilding road and stuck with their guns and developed a running game, but it feels like every time we've started developing a style we take 2 steps back. This comes from the players, but management just let it happen it seems. Where's the communication to tell players to start avoiding the Galway men that were sitting and cleaning up.

We played Galway twice last year and on both occasions we bet them, but you could see there was something in their running game. I don't understand how we didn't have a plan for it, we just let them get their overlaps and allowed them to waltz through and put over points.

Until Richie Reid and Killian Doyle (to a lesser extent) came on we couldn't play a ball into the forwards to save our lives, lads were overcoached and gave 3 or 4 needless handpasses when the forwards are probably screaming for the pass, and by the time they played it in the Galway man was up the Kilkenny man's arse. Richie, who I complain about more often than not, just picked up the ball and hit it in quick which was great to see. At that stage it was the fault of Mossy and Cody who seemed unable to win their own ball.

The biggest complaint I have about the players is the lack of fight, which was happening from very early. Other than Kenny, Blanchfield, Molloy and Bolger (who I think does plenty of good stuff), the fight was non existent. It's like they're happy enough to have excuses like the absence of Huw, Adrian, Billy, TJ.

I agree with a previous poster about the absence of Billy Ryan being nearly as important as Huw Lawlor. Not only for his pace, but his workrate often went unnoticed and when you're playing against a team that wants to run with it you need that. Instead we're seeing Eoin Cody back in the half back line chasing when he should be conserving his energy and letting the Billy's and the John Donnellys work their socks off.

There's a lot of negativity around the team right now and rightly so, but I think we need to take this year for what it is, a rebuilding year. This year we need to assume we're not going to win, but we have to develop a style and stick with it. We have to develop players and stick with them. We have to rediscover the never say die attitude that has been lost. They're more important than results right now in my opinion. If we can do that and build a squad of 20+ players that you can count on then we'll be in a much better place next year.

I said this about Cody when he was starting fecking Walsh Sheild games after a tough club campain that went right up to Christmas, and lads piled on with "he need game time "and "you can't have all new lads playing you need experience around them" he looks shattered already and its only March.

Makes the first two games in Leinster worrying now with Galway away and then Wexford coming to Nowlan Park throwing the absolute kitchen sink at Kilkenny.