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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭joedamuss


    Casey will probably be on the bench next week, lm a Munster supporter and have a lot of time for Craig, but l think by the world cup Doak will have overtaken him he's a much bigger man and has been in great form for Ulster and a great place kicker to boot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    Personal opinion. I think you’re under estimating Casey’s resolve & over estimating Doak’s ability at international level, but time will tell all and it’s in safer hands than us to opine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    He trotted back in the first half when Wales got into our 22.

    As I said, good going forward, liability once he has to turn and cover back or to make defensive decisions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,369 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Lads.

    We're winning the Championship next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,475 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Either that or Scotland are going to batter us lol. Mental stuff at Murrayfield.

    On a serious point I genuinely think England have (to steal an EOS quote) "the horses" to beat France so it really could be on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭ersatz


    Quite the opposite. That fix that Dunne is talking about is something thats literally the definition of a coaches job. Describe what the problem is and show how to fix it, Dunne can see it and Johnny can't, or Johny is seeing it, suggesting how to fix it and Crowley is ignoring him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,100 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I'd rather if irish played..Scottish style rugby...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,545 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Any win by France or Scotland next week, with the other losing gives them the tournament

    Ireland need both France & Scotland to lose.

    We'll all be shouting for England next week, even if we lose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    France 16
    Scotland 16
    Ireland 14

    If we get 5 points against Scotland, then France are the only team that could catch us and would have to win (or draw with a try bonus) to finish first.

    Points difference would only matter if we draw.

    Post edited by Jump_In_Jack on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭letsbefair


    France at home, strong favourites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭darkened_scrum


    Given how today had gone, real shame Crowley couldn't find touch from 10m out against Italy, missing that bonus point could turn out to be crucial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Yeah, I’m personally happier with the fact that we’ve beaten them 10 times in a row, but whatever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,545 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Or Dan Sheenan didn't try jumping the tackle with the try line at his mercy, went from a certain try to a penalty against us.

    Fine margins



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,332 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    France at home after losing the weekend before is a very dangerous animal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,292 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    or Ireland didn't play like complete fannies in france…

    your comment adds nothing to this forum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭OldRio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,545 ✭✭✭✭phog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    He didn't jump, he dived.

    All of the players who were in the ruck were off feet when Sheehan dives. Ruck was over.

    All of the players off feet cannot tackle or attempt to tackle.

    It was an officiating error.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,545 ✭✭✭✭phog


    It was a 5m tap & go and he clearly attempts to jump over the defenders. There was no ruck

    But this conversation is hurting someone so I'll leave ot



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    In fairness you mentioned the kick yourself saying that it was poor that we managed to miss touch for the penalty at the end of the game. We definitely missed a trick in not getting that BP try whether it had been from that lineout or the 5m tap.

    Kicking it dead was piss poor from Jack and he knows it but we still had to something with the ball once we got the lineout, the way some are talking you'd swear Ireland score a try from every 5m lineout, the truth is we don't.

    Hard to see England on current form going to Paris and winning regardless. The French regularly struggle with England historically. Maybe they’d have been a bit more nervous if they were trying to win the GS in front of their own fans. England are usually a sticky team to beat even when they’re not going well and have their backs to the walls next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,545 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I know I mentioned, it was a poor kick, there was really no need for you to waste your time trawling through posts to try and point score

    If we got the BP v Italy, we'd need a **** load of scores next week to pass out France assuming they only get a win.

    The whole discussion is an attempt to try and put some blame on Jack even though kicking a ball to touch has never ever been a score in itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    That’s fair enough. Players make mistakes.

    Just seemed like your whole post was doing what you’re accusing others of doing by trying to put some blame of Dan Sheehan even though a 5m tap and go has never ever been a score in itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,545 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Did you see the post I replied to? Why didn't you take it up with that poster.

    In all likelihood the loss of a BP against Italy is not going to be the championship decider but it's nice to have a go at Jack about it while ignoring Dan about his error.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    I didn’t think there was much in the post you replied to (although I have no idea if there’s a history between you and the other poster) and you echoed the same thoughts during the game. Tit for tat arguments are what drag this place down in my opinion and best not to get involved. Otherwise you’re become part of the problem and it never ends.

    Hopefully the lack of a BP win against Italy doesn’t decide anything. In fairness we were lucky to get out of it with a win so we got what we deserved at the end of the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,545 ✭✭✭✭phog


    So you didn't see much in the original post but mine deserved your attention, interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    So you perceived that a poster commented negatively on a player who plays for your team by changing the argument and blaming a guy who plays on their team (I’m assuming the other poster is a supporter of that team).

    I called out your post as I see you regularly accusing others of bringing provincial bickering into threads, yet here you are doing it yourself. Anyway let’s leave it there and stop clogging up this thread further.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 37,245 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    IMG_7353.jpeg IMG_7352.jpeg

    Quite interesting to see our offload stats comparing the whole 6N last year (25) to 41 this year after just 4 games. Shows how we’re trying to expand our game whilst England appear to be becoming less expansive or at best stalling in that aspect.

    I thought the game was going kick heavy in November and kicks are up slightly but looks like the game is already moving towards offloading. England have made the most kicks in open play with 123 and France are in 4th with 118. We’ve made 120 over 4 games. Scotland are the outliers with just 93.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,369 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I posted this last month and at the time I think I was correct? Everything we'd seen up to the start of the Six Nations suggested England had a settled game plan that most nations couldn't compete with.

    I'm at a complete loss to why it has gone tits up. Their kicking strategy is no longer effective and that's fair enough. Teams are better at scouting the England slap down and they're flooding that area now to prevent England regathering possession and launching quick transition attacks. But it's like Borthwick just expected his same strategy to work all the time with no new layers or wrinkles in attack added on. Once the aerial game stopped working they had no other points of attack. That's a coaching failure

    But the players have looked so laboured across the pitch too. Not winning collisions, getting bunched up right in defence to leave dog legs etc. Seems like as an entire group the players and coaches have both slumped at the same time.

    Post edited by Clegg on


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