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Emerson/Vertiv R48 Rectifier

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    The shipping is high to avoid various discounts and cash backs as these do not apply to shipping costs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Thanks to on the roots I can potentially get my rectifier up and running this weekend. Connected up the battery cables (just on my desk not to the actual batteries). Looks reasonable? Didn't want to overtighten in case damaged the terminals.

    Thanks

    Mick

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭bunderoon


    Wonder would bigger washers on the topside increase the surface area for better conductivity?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Not sure I just used the ones that came with it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭on_the_roots


    Not really, since the actual contact area is the bottom of the lug with the connector. That's fine for the ~56A max this rectifier can deliver.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    looks like its all system go for hooking up my rectifier this evening.. be interesting to see how it goes.. what are the rules around using the rectifier to charge the batteries? i should only run it when my solis is also charging? im definetly going to use automations in home assistant to manage its use.. ive seen a few people say you are better off letting your main battery finish the battery charge? so if my window is 2am to 5am - was thinking of an automation to stop the rectifier once battery soc gets to 95% or 4.30 which ever comes sooner and let the solis tip on for the last 30 minutes?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭on_the_roots


    Yes, it should only run when your inverter is also charging.

    It's fine to keep it running when charging is finished (100% SOC), since your BMS will simply stop charging no matter what is in the input. The only slight downside is that you won't have the "settling charging phase" (the last 1% slow charging that takes ~15min) because the rectifier will continue to throw its full charging capacity until the BMS stops at 100%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 553 ✭✭✭munsterfan2


    15kw battery so my emerson automation runs from 2.05 for 2 hours and there is another automation which turns it off if soc over 90.

    Solis runs from 2 until 5 at 60a.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    All fitted, was only able to test for a few minutes as batteries were nearly full. I could see the house draw of combined solis and rectifier via myenegi app/home assistant but I couldn't see the extra charge going into the batteries.. need to test when they are emptier I guess. Noise might be a concern. I don't think it would wake us but you could hear it inside and outside the side of the house fair whoosh of it. Again I doubt it would wake the neighbours but we will see. I won't run tonight id rather dump some of the battery and do a test during the day for 3 hours and see how everything fairs out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭championc


    I'm still trying to get CAN access to my Emerson. My plan is to keep its voltage tracking that of my inverter



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Let us know how you get on, if I could turn down the fan speed a fraction would be a big help I think. I've lots of ventilation where it is so not that worried about heat. There's a can connection on the PCB connected to mine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭championc


    While I believe the fan is controllable on the Huawei's, I don't believe it can be controlled on the Emerson

    I wonder could you simply get a standard 120mm PC type fan and make a funnel to push into them rather than using the onboard noisy one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭on_the_roots


    You could remove the upper cover entirely and fit the rectifer into a plastic box with a large (but silent) fan on top.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭GarlicBed


    What size battery have you ?

    Why don't you run the solis at full 100a ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Should you be able to see the extra power supplied by the rectifier on the Solis app/screen?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Heres my install,

    Didn't use the victron in the end. Wired charger to spare positive/negative on each battery. AC isolator before the Shelly relay, DC fused isolation 80 amps between charger and batteries.

    Discharging the batteries at the moment to try a charge this evening. It's slow though with all the sunshine. First world problems. Want to try a 3 hour charge this evening and monitor temps and soc etc before jumping into night time use.

    Thanks everyone for your help on the thread.

    Cheers

    Mick

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭on_the_roots


    32kWh. Inverter alone can barely get 40% of that in the 3h EV window.

    Where did you get those brackets? Looks very nice, with glands!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    3d printed from the models uploaded by Graeme (earlier in the thread) by a friend who's into 3d printing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Running a charge test now. Have the inverter charging for 3 hours and started the rectifier 5 minutes later. Both running now. Battery soc at 21%. Solis app is showing the house load but doesn't show it all going to the batteries for some reason? It wasn't showing the full kw going to the batteries just with the inverter on its own. I'll keep an eye on the progress, temperature of the space etc over the next few hours. In theory should get 25ish kWh in over the 3 hours. Won't run any other appliances or the car charger during the window

    Thanks,

    Mick

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Battery 1 BMS

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Battery 2 BMS

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    The solis will see the charge from the rectifier as a house load not charging the batteries.

    It doesn't "see" the power going to the batteries from the rectifier



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Got my first can anyone else hear that humming noise from the cohabitants. It's probably no louder than a dishwasher running in the kitchen but will not ideal.. whether it wakes someone at night would be the deal breaker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Quick sound check outside and it does sound like someones running a Dyson hairdryer round the side of the house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭on_the_roots


    You sure your inverter has been capable to charge as much as you expect it to do? If it charges at 5kW you should see it going into the batteries.

    If you have comms with the BMS it shows the total charging power.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Looks like got about 23kwh onto the batteries over 3 hours



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Added some washing machine rubber mat material between the mounts and wall and seems to have taken away the hum noise completely. Ran at 2am for 15 minutes and no complaints. Will ramp up over the coming nights.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭championc


    How did you consume 23kWh if it only ran for 15mins ?

    If you are on a MIC12 connection, you should have a decent bit of margin to run other stuff including car charging. Hopefully you have a Zappi, which will then just use available remainder power



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    The 23 kWh was from the previous evening test run over 3 hours



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭micks_address


    hi folks,

    ive ordered one of the

    lilygo T-CAN485

    boards for the curiosity. Do i need to order a cable to connect it to the canbus board? i assume no cables included from aliexpress? you can power the board with usb c power?

    Thanks,

    Mick



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