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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Iran has a sometimes tense relationship with Iran. 25% of Iran's population is Azeri and Azerbaijan used to be part of Qajar Persia before Russia conquered it. Khamenei the Iranian Supreme Leader was an ethnic Azeri though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    How reliable is that account do you know? It seems to be pro-monarchy judging by the flag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭eastie17


    has anyone seen him and boy George in the same room at the same time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    Trump has greatly underestimated the impact and scale of this war imo. Iran has around 92 million people - it’s not going to be a snap. A war with Iran can go on for decades and plunge the world into a global depression. It’s not like taking over Venezuela. Iran is a much bigger undertaking than a war with Iraq.

    US has 348 million people. That is, 348m fueling economy behind the war.

    Israel has roughly 10 million people, not including Palestinians (Gaza and West Bank). It’s 1 against 9 Iranians.

    Posturing Trump has demanded “unconditional surrender” from Iran. Trump shouldn’t be in the business of thinking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    So they cut the head and the next two or three dozen of the snake, and then demand the unconditional surrender of a nation of 93 million people, all the while carpet bombing the capital where the people most sympathetic to regime change actually live.

    Is there a central authority with enough legitimacy to even surrender? Like who can give the order that the rest of the guard will follow? Israel has already declared it will assassinate the next supreme leader and have already shown they will do it during negotiations, so why would any singular person take control of Iran just to surrender and risk getting assassinated anyway.

    It went from nuclear weapons to ballistic missiles to "the people rise up" to regime change to UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER in the space of a week. Talk a lack of any sort of statecraft. The US is just leaving themselves with no room to exit with that demand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Israel doesnt have 10 mill the entire yr round please. Also the population growth rate dropped below 1 % in 2025.

    I don't think Iran can go on fighting forever but I don't think an interim or replacement govt would last 5 yrs.

    Israelis are delusional.

    NATO ALONG WITH IRON DOME failed to close the skies over Tel Aviv. I dont think people know what that means. Israel is a land mass of 22,00km. Munster is a land mass of over 24,675 km. The skies of Munster are larger than the entire airspace of Israel. NATO AND Iron dome (remember both) couldnt close the skies over TEL AVIV alone! Iran devastated Tel Aviv. People had been asking NATO to close the skies over Ukraine which is 600km. Or at least the main cities they can't even do it for Tel Aviv against Iran who is smaller and less capable than Russia. The USA (because other nato powers said they won't take part but im sure they are behind the scenes tho) can't close the skies over an area the size of MUNSTER against Iran. Let that sink in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭somenergy


    Iran will surely move its C&C to major hospitals same way Palestinians did in gaza

    Probably got a similar tunnel network under Tehran

    It's religious hardliners will do anything to survive they where trying to get a bomb to be invincible and flex their nuclear status



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭Diddly Squat


    I must say it gives me great satisfaction to see the raining of bombs on Isreali cities by Iran, tho i suspect some videos are AI its great to see. I'm feeling a little sense of justice for the children and innocent men and women of Gaza who were murdered by cowards behind drones and scopes. I hope the bombs leave tel aviv looking like cities in Gaza for a finish. And a nice little bonus is the bombing of American bases, long may it last for what they've done to the middle east fir decades



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    I think that USA know very well that China and Russia help Iran with targeting info. I also think that this does not surprise them. They themselves do that, supplying Ukraine with targeting info against Russian targets. It is just the way things are done and there is not much anyone can do about it anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Is this some poor attempt to explain current and future bombing of hospitals? To claim that they are military centers in disguise? You do not need to bother. Whole world knows who has a history of bombing hospitals, schools, weddings and funerals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Now ask yourselves why Iron Dome and the USA cannot close the skies over an area the size of Munster. And imagine the popultion density of 10 mill people IN munster. Forgive me I know they have shelters etc. But it is Israel who should be surrendering at this stage.

    If the USA can't close the skies over Israel that changes the entire game globally. The USA has been revealed in the way that Russia was over Ukraine.

    We shall see. I mean could the USA even close its own skies ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    It was painfully visible in the last 12 day war. It had to end because damage was real and on everyone's eyes. This time its even worse as despite Israeli censorship people now can see what is happening with attacks on USA bases all over the gulf even though Gulf monarchies and dictatorships spent billions on defense. Even entity like Hezbollah is punching serious damage so Iron dome is nothing but a rust bucket as it seems.

    Whole adventure was serious miscalculation and wont end up good. We all gonna pay for this retarded exercise in stupidity. The more people think about it the more visible is the real reason why it happened. Galloway as simple as he is got it right. This whole exercise is just attempt to take attention from Epstein network and some revelations which escaped censors who were tasked to remove most damaging info. A lot of people work overtime to sanitize last batches before they will have to make them public. Stuff in there must be quite bad to excuse them waging war to delay release of the rest of the files.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


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    Iran apologising to neighbouring countries. Sounds like they have some sort of council now saying that countries will only get struck if attacks come from there. Wonder how many of them would allow the US to attack from those bases now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/war-in-iran-to-spark-mortgage-hikes-and-push-motor-fuel-prices-over-2-a-litre/a961619364.html


    Israel & USA & their blood letting is going to ramp up the cost of living significantly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Video on youtube showing Turkish reporters in Israel being arrested for reporting on war damage.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    That's quite something isn't it.

    Also:

    The foreign ministers of the Arab League will hold an emergency meeting on Sunday to discuss Iranian attacks on several of the group’s members.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    I'd expect the IRGC, the "I" stands for Islamic not Iranian, to be pretty hardcore and devoted.

    That way Khamenei just waited at home for his death makes me think they'd welcome an invasion. There's speculation that IRGC sleeper cells could now be activated in the west.

    If that happens in the USA, Trump won't be able to stop this war.

    The boy that's missing down the well since the 10th century that they are all waiting for to return, will return in a period of chaos and turmoil.

    Death cults are hard to defeat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭somenergy


    Iran regime will treat their people the way hamas does/did no bomb shelters, execute on any desent and use human shield hence I suggested hospitals

    The regime in Iran has been the driver for many itroubles in the world that inc Ukraine



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    ILoveYourVibes wrote:

    Israel doesnt have 10 mill the entire yr round please. Also the population growth rate dropped below 1 % in 2025.

    ^ Hectoring? I wrote roughly 10 million.

    Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS)
    "Israel starts 2026 with more than 10 million people"

    Published On: Jan 2, 2026
    https://thenewsmill.com/2026/01/israel-starts-2026-with-more-than-10-million-people/

    “Tel Aviv [Israel], January 1 (ANI/TPS): Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) reported that, as of the start of 2026, Israel’s population is estimated at 10.178 million residents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭BettyS


    I don’t think that certain people realise how deeply belief can run. There are the opportunists, who support the regimen du jour, in the hope of acquiring spoils. And then there are the people who actually believe wholeheartedly in the regimen. Take Gobbels, the disgusting Nazi and his wife, Magda. When they saw the end of the Reich, they did not want their children to grow up in a world without Nazi ideology. She insanely believed that they could reincarnate as something better. Magda declined multiple offers to take her kids out of Berlin. They drugged all 6 of their children (the youngest aged 4) and stated that if they were old enough, they would wish to die by suicide. The Gobbels probably has access to immense funds. But they believed in the truly evil rhetoric that they were spouting. On both sides, you have people that believe solely in their vision of an acceptable world for their children. And they will kill to achieve this world. The Hornet’s nest has been stirred and I don’t know how they plan to achieve compromise. Money is not the solution



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭BettyS


    I believe that intensive cooperation, negotiation, goodwill from both sides and acknowledgment of wrong on both sides is the only way forward. Violence just stirs up the conflict further and makes it harder to reach a point of negotiation. I would be focusing on mediation. But what the hell do I know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭amacca


    Well that inspired confidence..... Trump just has a knack for these sort of things!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    By all accounts Israel is well on the way to turning Tehran into the next Gaza. How much of the city will they have to destroy, how many civilians they kill, before the rest of the world starts to condemn them? Why this deafening silence? Even the Muslim countries don't seem to care much?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,437 ✭✭✭brickster69


    LNG tanker rates soar 650% along the US - Europe - Asia route. Problem is the distance to get supply from Texas to Asia is a lot more than from the Gulf so more tankers are obviously out of action. Not only is there only so much gas there are only so many ships to transport it.

    Then you get into the US LNG problem, extra demand will be massive so that will push up prices in the US for electricity and with an oil shortage on top Trumps mid terms will be decimated. The only way to prevent it is to actually reduce exports, defeat 95 million people somehow, hope a moderate Ayatollah comes in who does not want nuclear weapons, or end the conflict somehow by other means.

    Russian suppliers agreed to divert European supply straight away to Asia in order to secure long term contracts instead of waiting for the EU total ban on LNG which enters into force in 2027. That's those ships gone also.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭vswr


    3 x B1 Bombers arrived in RAF Fairford (UK), returning from ops in Iran.

    Makes 4 there now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    The Lebanese also seemingly took the step of ostracizing Hizbullah in a last ditch effort to stave off the psychopathic Israelis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭malibu4u


    Even Muslim countries do not seem to care much, asks you?

    Well, as someone else said, Muslim countries that do want a regime change ( and end of exporting terrorism) in Iran include Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE etc

    Muslim countries that do not want regime change in Iran include Spain, Britain...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,437 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Looks like the Epstein regimes are going full steam ahead on the Iranian public. Another 10 years Tehran might look like Gaza given the first weeks bombardment.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



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