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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Regardless of that island this war was happening. It's definitely possible it was used for bipartisan black mail but Trump has always been team Israel. Didn't he make one of his sons a Jew FFS?

    Holy ****.. you'd be forgiven for thinking a volcano went off here. These bunker busters just hit a hell of a weapons stockpile.

    Whatever Iran had on paper it's now mostly on smoke. They'll not ever get to use even half of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    The US have turned into a laughing stock. Current amin have hoodwinked a lot of their dumb voters in plain sight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    Neither the US nor Israel are party to the 2008 CCM treaty and both have used them recently. Can hardly complain now can they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,882 ✭✭✭threeball


    Not content with starving children on the other side of the world to death, hes now decided to starve them closer to home too. Maybe infantino can give him a medal for lowering CO2 emissions by reducing population.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    The psychopaths still have nukes though. Not sure how that'll be handled. It would not surprise me if there was one of each pointed at all their allies (including their greatest) in the case of things going tits up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,882 ✭✭✭threeball


    The Samson option is absolutely a huge factor in this. If we do enter WW3 its very likely it will be due to this last sting of this dying wasp. They 100% have no issues with taking us all with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    The Aranian leaderships are knunts.

    The American leadership are knunts.

    The European leadership are so fukn sad I wish they were ****.

    The Chinese are fukn laughing their asses off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Ah come on lads from the Aran Islands are sound.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    We're heading into Day 6 now aren't we? You can start comparing to the 10 day war when a relatively fresh Israel attacked a relatively fresh Iran.

    Israel are getting hit far less frequently this time around. They clearly degraded them a hell of a lot more then Iran degraded Israel. If anything Israel probably learned a lot from the attacks last year.

    As it stands they'll be very happy with how this is all playing out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Australia’s prime minister Anthony Albanese has now confirmed that three Australians were on a US submarine that sank an Iranian warship.

    ..

    But he maintained that Australian forces were in compliance with international law, and said: “No Australian personnel have participated in any offensive action against Iran.”

    I am really starting to understand why the world hates white people or those who pass as white. The exceptionalism is galling.

    Build bases everywhere surrounding your enemies, cry foul if they get attacked when you start a war, put your men on submarines that blow ships out of the water and claim they were not part of the same attack..

    It just never ends, and our populations just eat up the lies and are too retarded to even ask themselves "Could Ireland host a Russian base but not be part of its war effort?" or "Could Ireland send troops to Russia for training on a submarine and not be part of an attack that the submarine makes?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,098 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Rutte is an absolute embarrassment. If NATO is a tool for the US to project their power regardless of the wishes of the other members, it might be time to replace it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I would be concerned that with the US reportedly after using up, during the war with Iran, more missiles that used in the entire 4 years of the Russia-Ukraine war, that the seeds are being sown of future problems for Ukraine in air defence. It also raises serious questions about whether intercepting Iranian drones is depleting US missile stocks. Drones are cheap (in the tens of thousands) compared to missiles that cost millions. Zelensky says the US has asked Ukraine to help on how to counter Shahed drones.

    Abu Dhabi, Doha and Manama have been struck by Iranian missiles and drones. A French evacuation aircraft was forced to turn back from UAE

    Iran unleashed a fresh aerial strike across the Gulf on Thursday evening as the conflict with the US-Israel entered its 7th day on Friday, March 6.

    A fresh wave of missile and drone strikes was reported in the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Bahrain.

    Explosions were also heard in Qatar’s Doha and Bahrain’s Manama on Thursday as Iran continues to retaliate against coordinated strikes by targeting the US interests in West Asia.

    French Transport Minister Philippe Tabarot stated an Air France flight chartered by the French government to bring French nationals back from the UAE was forced to turn back on Thursday amid missile fire in the region.

    “This situation reflects the instability in the region and the complexity of repatriation operations,” the minister said.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,702 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    No, it's a genuine statement, not a quip.

    If Ukraine has something the US genuinely needs, there's an option for trading that capability for something the US has which Ukraine can find a use for but which is not currently being fielded for whatever reason. Even if it's just a free bunch of ATACMs in addition to the materiel being purchased by European nations for delivery to Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    At what point should we be asking why aren't we celebrating with the Persians?

    Even celebrations in Manchester

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    In his phone call with TIME, Trump described the mission as preventative. “America First is really about keeping America healthy and well, and not having other countries, you know, hit us,” he says. “There are occasions when you have no choice. This was an occasion.” The aim, he says, is to prevent Iran from having the capacity to endanger the U.S. “They can’t have a nuclear weapon. That’s number one, two, and three. Number four, no ballistic missiles,” he says.

    America has its own oil and does not need anything in the Middle East. If the US closed all of its bases around the world and kept its entirely military in America and its waters, not a single soldier or American would die from foreign attack.

    The entire America First thing that Trump ran on, which he apparently got from decades of US mishap in the Middle East (same article), is exactly that, but it has been completely discarded. They bang on about keeping themselves safe and then go out of their way to ensure they are not safe.

    It's the same with Israel, knowing about October 7th beforehand and ignoring the warnings. They bomb all of their neighbours guaranteeing decades more of risk and death. Both the US just lie and lie and lie about protecting themselves whilst doing everything they can to put themselves in danger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Your brain works the same way as Trump's. You see protestors or people celebrating, extrapolate that out to 93 million people and because all you have seen is people celebrating, you imagine all 93 million people want regime change so you go to war and ask them to change their own regime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    On the self sufficiency in oil its more complex than that. The US is not self-sufficient when it comes to refining its own oil.

    US domestic crude oil is mostly light-oil. Most US refineries are optimised for heavy-oil. This probably reflects US crude being mostly heavy oil in the past.

    The result is that the US imports heavy oil to be refined at US refineries. And the US exports light oil to countries that can refine it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Is that something they are in the process of changing I wonder. I figured the shale revolution had been going on long enough that American infrastructure would be more self-contained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Most existing U.S. refineries were upgraded between the 1980s–2010s to process heavy and sour crude, imported from places like , Mexico, Venezuela and Canada.

    Heavy crude is cheaper but harder to refine. U.S. companies invested billions in complex refineries with units like:

    • cokers
    • hydrocrackers
    • desulfurization systems

    These refineries can already process light oil, but they’re optimized to squeeze more value from heavy oil.

    When the U.S. shale boom produced huge amounts of light sweet crude, the refining system was not built for that mix.

    Large volumes of light crude now come from places like the Permian Basin in Texas and New Mexico.

    Instead of building new refineries, companies often export the crude and let other countries refine it. Major buyers including India, the Netherlands and South Korea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭Hoboo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    The simple person's way of looking at the world, the peado suits their world view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    If the Iran war has a negative knock on effect for Ukraine Trump will be happy. The whole Trump regime is basically pro Russia and they hate Europe, so everything that harms Ukraine and causes more trouble for the EU pleases them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    More grotesque Western privilege. All these people complaining about not getting home from their fckin holidays in the Middle East fast enough while the people actually living there keep getting bombed day after day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭no.8


    What's your gripe here exactly? It reeks of begrudgery.

    Should individuals, couples or families transiting a region with a commercial airline be left stranded in no-mans-land by their government where they to be caught up in a dynamic conflict. Could it be that many of these individuals also perform critical roles back home and ended up being caught up while on a work trip, transiting or on a holiday?

    As for holidays, well that's their own business. It could be a holiday of a lifetime for one person and bi-monthly jaunt for another. Who knows.

    I wonder how you'd respond if the Irish consular services did sweet feck all for you in the event you or your family found yourselves in a dangerous spot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭tarvis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    There’s also the “China” factor though- Iran was in bed with China and wouldn’t have survived this long without economic ties with that country, avoiding wider sanctions.

    Trump has stirred a hornets nest - he’s disrupted oil going to China; that’s going to be remembered. The American administration can’t say the real reasons they’re supporting Israel in this war- but Trump clearly called out China as an economic adversary in his election campaigning - but yet he’s be relatively quiet about China overall since taking office.

    It’s clear democracy or peace is not a primary aim here. Same has happened with Venezuela- it’s about money, oil, competitive advantage and making life a bit more difficult for China .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    What I find disgusting is Westerners going to these awful countries for a bit of sunshine, ignoring the awful governments and human rights abuses there, then begging for help when things go wrong. I would never go near those places even for transit. They should be left there to reflect on their choices. They could have just gone to the Canaries



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    Its not even western privilege, its pure f*cking stupidity and blatant, arrogant willful ignorance.

    The amount of people who believe Dubai is a holiday destination just like Spain, Italy, France, Germany etc is unbelievable.

    "Oh I thought it was safe",

    "Oh I thought Dubai was different from Iran, Iraq, Israel (insert Middle Eastern sh*thole at war)"

    Dubai was always blatently and openly using slave labour and pretending to be western ish. It was always a unsafe, unethical sh*thole.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “More grotesque Western privilege.”

    Hardly- a few hundred people relieved to be home - most of them tourists caught up in a war - there’s no “privilege” about it. What do you want them to do?

    And UAE have strict rules around commenting on the current events- we don’t know how difficult things really are over there. If I had the choice of staying with missiles flying overhead or going home, I know which option I’d choose.



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