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Best Electricity Plan for new EV Owners

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭September1


    I recommend to just email them and if they fail to respond in couple weeks there is complaints email that will push CS to respond to original email. I had couple of billing issues with them and they are got slowly resolved without making any phone calls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    How much will you save by not spending 40c per kwh for 20 hours during the day though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    If he has a decent battery probably not much at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    €2.75 per day if all 10 kWh are used. In other words a grand a year. That's actually worth it and doesn't include getting any Feed In Tariff if he has solar as well. Exporting 3,000 kWh with an 8c margin is another €240 off the bill.

    That's about €2,000 of gross salary worth of savings to put it into a different perspective. (At 35% tax)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭ddcluracan


    I just noticed that the fixed rate Flogas standard offer has disappeared from their website. It was a pretty good deal, is there a new BWG offer incoming? And has the timing of this disappearance anything to do with the latest uncertainty on oil and gas prices due to the Iran conflict?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Preceded it a few days if the customer emails are anything to go by.

    Looks like no real value in any of the providers at the moment, without going for a silly 3 or 4 hour window for low-mileage drivers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    Yes, there has been a huge spike in LNG futures this morning, also oil spiked 10% in early trading.

    ☀️ 8.2kWp ⚡4kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,630 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    And?? I thought they bought megawatts in advance, well that's the excuse they trot out when gas prices fall and unit rates don't, by that reasoning the reverse should apply, anyway I thought we/the EU had built up gas reserves to shield us from these price spikes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    No need to pick a fight, I simply answered the posters question of the timing of Flogas pulling the fixed rate deal due to spiking energy prices.

    We have an extremely weak regulator so it should be no suprise that companies will use this excuse to adjust their pricing methods soley in their favor and not the consumer.

    ☀️ 8.2kWp ⚡4kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,630 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I'm not picking a fight at all, but they seem to have every excuse under the sun to shaft us, I certainly wasn't having a go at you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    I drove past a petrol station last night. Unleaded was 1.75 per liter. Drove past the same one this morning. Gone up to 1.78. Same petrol brought into the country at the same price.

    Michael Martin this morning warning garages about profiteering. He's obviously put the fear of God into them🙄

    Gas will be no different



  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,900 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Kerosene gone nuts, 40% increase in some places.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭sligopaul


    i was about to pull the trigger on one of those Flogas tariffs and they had pulled them from the website ( my spidey senses weren't clued into what the orange man child was going to do ) with the uncertainty there is a lack of value there for someone who has just bought an ev , was looking at this as the best of a bad bunch

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Shpongler


    Luckily enough, we got ported over to the flogas day/night fixed plan yesterday. Applied 2 weeks ago. Moved from Energia EV plan due a second EV at home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    Martin will do what he always does, nothing 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    I'm in a bit of a pickle. My energia contract expires on 1st April. Jump now and get stung with a penalty or wait and potentially get stung with crap tariff options in April.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,630 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Have you spotted a plan that's better? I'd go for it tbh, in fairness to energia the refunded me the €50 when I contacted them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    50 quid will seem like loose change when we see the rates coming shortly.

    Already the favourable day/night tariffs that were available just a few days ago have been removed from the providers offerings.

    Buckle up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 314 ✭✭ltd440


    Who's giving the cheapest day/night now?.

    My contract is up at the end of the month and just glancing at them last night they all seem pretty crap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    There was a few decent options last Sunday, but gone by Tuesday I noticed. You're in the 30/15 territory now, which is indeed crap.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭pureza


    A 15c/kwh night rate is still an awful lot cheaper than 59c at a public charger or what you’d pay for diesel at the pumps obviously

    Won’t be long before that night rate rises a lot

    Are the EV rates allowing night rates too in the 11pm to 7am period ie if there’s a 4h low EV rates too can you get the night rate for the other 4 hours?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    SSE have a tariff that would suit me but I'd need to buy a battery to make it pay. Day and peak is 33.76 cents but 11pm to 5am is 12.13 cents.

    I could fill the 16kWh battery to cover the house and put 30kWh (assuming 5kWh per hour) into the EV on Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday nights to cover the days I'm in the office which is a 250km round trip - I'd still need to draw juice from 7pm to 11pm on those days to ensure the battery was fully topped up but I'd still be getting 50kWh for around €10 which is a steal compared to my petrol car which is burning through about €40 (at last week's prices) covering the same distance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Our plan is up on the 20th of this month and I'm even considering breaking, even a 2c increase per unit will cost us €200. What a world we live in!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    I actually forgot my solar was out of action for the guts of 3 months last spring and summer. thankfully energypal has the option to select dates so i used the previous years data and it came up with a different tariff this time from Electric Ireland which works out well for me. it is ever so slightly more expensive what I'm currently on but will work out much cheaper (i reckon i'll be in the black) if i add a battery.

    anyway i signed up so alls good.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,604 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    You still get a night rate with the EV plans I've seen but it's much, much more expensive than a standard night rate. If you do any load shifting with the washing machine or dishwasher you'd really need them to be on during the EV rate too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    in the main they are not more expensive than a standard night rate or at least that's what i can see from energypal.

    my night rate is 15.05 cents with the EV rate at 8.84 cents. The blended rate over the 9 hour night rate period is 13.67 cents.

    I can charge the battery for 1 hour at 15c/kWh and 2 hours at 8.84c/kWh. A 16kWh battery from 10% to 100% would cost €1.53 to charge. An EV charging over the 9 hour period would consume 45kWh or €6.15 at the blended night rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭wassie


    But what will you jump to? A cheaper plan that then raises its prices negating any gain? Choppy waters ahead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. As things were I was going to be out of contract at the end of the month and facing a significant uptick in rates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭wassie


    I would be holding on top avoid the break fee.

    My reasoning is Irish elec suppliers typically hedge 6 to 18 months in advance, so our bills "should" be shielded in the short term. But if this conflict lasts longer 4-6 weeks, from reports Ive read suppliers will have to start buying "future" energy at these new, higher rates to replace their hedges. That would normally translate into increase costs in around 2-3 months.

    This is the upside of hedging. The downside is the lag effect if rates do eventually increase, they may stay higher even after wholesale energy prices drop.

    If this drags on, then all this goes out the window and we could be back in 2022 territory with multiple double digit rises.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 314 ✭✭ltd440


    I just signed back up with bord gais, electricity 30 cent kwh day and 15 night, I probably do 60% of usage on the night rate and it's not going to get cheaper anytime soon.

    9 cent for the gas in case anyone is interested.

    Btw as an aside, I don't see this conflict ending quickly.



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