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Replacing an electric shower with a power shower

  • 04-03-2026 03:33PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭


    We have two tank fed electric showers in the house with a priority box.

    We are thinking of replacing one of them with a power shower to reduce the electricity cost of having a shower.

    There is a third shower in the house that is just a standard mixer but the pressure is awful so thats why we are considering a power shower.

    The shower we would be replacing is quite old, but does function fine. The hot press is directly behind the wall the shower is on, so adding a how water feed should be straight forward (or at least I think it should?)

    It is not important to us that both showers run at the same time, so keeping the priority box in place is fine

    A few questions I have:

    • Am I right in saying it shouldn't be a big deal to get hot water feed to the shower? As mentioned the shower shares a wall with the hotpress, so I assume you could just pipe it straight through?
    • I understand that a power shower will use a lot less power than an electric shower, will this cause any issues with the priority box or will that whole system need to be revisited? EDIT: Just tested there, the shower that we are looking to replace is the de-priortized shower, so in theory I think it should work as is? As the other electric shower will get priority regardless of the current draw of the new shower.
    • Any other things I should consider?

    Thanks!

    Post edited by witnessmenow on


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭John.G


    If you are installing a "standard" power shower then you will require a shower booster pump as well as the shower but you can buy a shower like the Triton Novel SR with its own integral pump supplied from the CWS cistern and the HW cylinder to give up to 14LPM.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    I hadnt even got as far as looking for types but that was the sort of one I had in mind, I didn't realise they didnt all have pumps. Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    there’s nothing wrong with your mixer shower, water pressure is the problem, I wouldn’t go putting in a triton like above if you want a proper shower up the water pressure for the whole house with a Grundfos pump in the hot press, that’ll transform the mixer shower, you can turn it into a proper rain shower.

    We’re in the process of getting rid of the 2 tritons, we’ve already put in the pump for an upstairs shower, it’s a 6 star hotel experience. Well worth the investment. All your taps will also have a lot more power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    This would be the ideal solution but my wife talked to the plumber about it the last time he was here he suggested that it was risky to pressurize an older system (about 30 years old).

    I'm not 100% sure how he worded it so I might be misrepresenting what he said, but that was the general gist of it.

    We were asking him more as a hypothetical as well (so no timeline/pressure), and I can't imagine it's too difficult of a job to install so I'm not sure why he'd talk us out of it if he didn't have his reasons.

    We haven't talked to him about the power shower either but I felt like it would be a different story as hot water feed would be new and the cold water tank is directly above it if we needed to run even a new line for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    mines 30yrs old, needed to change a few taps as they couldn’t handle the pressure but you’re talking €30 worth of handles…he’s just been lazy. Should have told you it was the way to go or maybe he doesn’t understand what it’s like to live with the difference.

    Tank above is an advantage, we needed the pump as the rain shower was going upstairs.

    Not to be crude but the triton will feel like someone is taking a weak piss on you compared to a proper shower from a pressurised system.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    What you are proposing sounds fine to me, just bear in mind that power showers use lots of water, typically 3x that of electric showers. So there certainly won’t be an energy saving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Do you mean from heating the water is it?

    During the colder months we'd have the boiler on for a few hours throughout the day so the water is being heated as part of that regardless (the rads are zoned for upstairs And downstairs but the hot water "zone" is always on).

    We are also planning to get solar , so heating the hot water tank I believe is more viable that way than using the electric shower. Even without solar we could heat the water on the cheaper night rate rather than day or peak when using the electric.

    A powered shower is will feel like two people peeing on us I guess, seeing as our "good" shower, the triton t90sr has half the flow rate of the power shower 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,470 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Ah it should, most electric shower are 8-9 kws, that's very high consuming, at least with the mixer or power shower you can control when you hear the water, either at night with a cheap rate or by solar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    Yes, but the flow rate is typically at least three times that of an electric shower. You need to heat three times the volume of water - off peak tariffs will certainly help, but it will still be more expensive than an electric shower of the same duration.

    Albeit a more better shower



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    Yes - power showers use much more water than an electric shower.

    Your oil boiler is using more oil though to heat the cylinder and top it up as water is used. It’s not free heat.

    I probably wouldn’t use solar PV to heat a cylinder. Oil is cheaper currently as you will get circa €0.18 per unit selling back to the grid.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    yeah there is definitely a bit of figuring out to do but point well made that while the run time electricity will be less, the hot water isn't free!

    Yeah the plan would be to export whatever we can, even the night rate we are on at the moment is 14c so would be cheaper at night. Not sure the oil will be cheaper for long with the way things are going!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭greenbin2


    God I hate the electric shower

    Pumped rainfall showers for the win

    Keep pretending that you need it to save money or whatever if it gets the plan across the line



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Yeah fair enough. We'll try again with him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,470 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Energias off peak is over 4 times cheaper than their day peak rate, just fyi



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    its two years since we first got our EV, year 1 we were on bordgais EV rate (7c a kWh) we moved whatever we could to that rate but at the end of the year wer put our usage into energypal.ie and we were €20 a month better off moving to a day night rate.

    We are very high users of electricity, even without the EV. The shower situation probably doesn't help!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    I’m not sure what rates you are referring to, but typically these very low tariffs for a very short period are offset by higher rates at other periods.

    I recently contracted with Energia. The rates are (incl vat);

    night - €0.1436

    Day - €0.2612

    Peak - €0.2933



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,470 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    And a dramatically inflated day rate of nearly 41c a unit to compensate. You will get a much better deal than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭ImTiredOfItAll


    A 10 minute electric shower is far more cheaper than a 10 minute power. Electric shower costs about 25% that of a power shower or 75% less.

    An electric shower puts out 3 to 4.5 litres of warm water per minute. A power shower puts out about 14 litres of warm water per minute.

    The question is do you want a quality pressured shower or a cheaper to run electric shower with a third of the pressure.

    I love my power shower but if you want to save money then the electric shower is the way to go



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭ImTiredOfItAll


    Despite having the heating on in the winter, it's not true that it heats up the hot water cylinder free of charge.

    There is a coil in the cylinder. This is like running an extra rad inside the cylinder to give you the "free" water. An electric shower far cheaper to run BUT doesn't give amazing pressure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭greenbin2


    Cheaper for a reason

    They are the worst showers going

    I use it a lot because i love to save money



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