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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 12.02.26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭PARlance




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭waywill1966


    Glorious!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,080 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    Go on Wolves!

    What a great result that is…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Gives us a lot of breathing room before a tough game tomorrow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭FrankN1


    Slot right in 🤣🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Comms will be good if we beat Newcastle. Though he'll probably do a Liverpool special even if we lose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,404 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Tough match tomorrow but now a huge opportunity given tonight's result and the fact that Villa are playing Chelsea.

    Win and we will have really consolidated our hopes for Champs League. Be great to manage a win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    I'm saying nothing because this is when we usually bottle it....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Someone mentioned that Bruno Guimarães is out tomorrow. Where has this news been posted onlin?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,727 ✭✭✭caviardreams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,693 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    More confident of a win tonight than I would be at home to a bottom half team.

    The result last night makes this not a disaster if we don't get the win.

    Their manager is under huge pressure and they will attack which is perfect for us.

    Game would be perfect for Amad but I don't see him dropping Sesko or Cunha.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,199 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    This is Newcastle’s cup final though. Anything could happen. Hopefully we smash them. I can’t stand them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭fish fingers


    Yeah, its the fans who annoy me. They were in a title race with us many yrs ago and they still seem to have a chip on their shoulder about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    This is my worry whenever we play Newcastle. It's their cup final and form goes out the window. But they should leave space as Backstreet Moyes has said. Bruno Guimarães being out is massive. As good as Tonali can be Guimarães is their star midfielder imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Don't know what Sesko is like defending set pieces but would his height be needed to help with Dan Burn. Even more so if Maguire is sick. But I could also see us going back to Cunha, Mbeumo, and Amad for this game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    Game on TV tonight

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    Come on United ✊🏻

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭kyleman


    Hopefully Carrick can have us up for this game and we bring some intensity from minute one.

    Newcastle have bullied us in games over the last few years and if we begin like the last few games we will be in trouble.

    We are in a good league position but we have to be on the front foot and take advantage of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,801 ✭✭✭randd1


    Not to bring up old wounds, but in the 8 games since Amorim got the sack, we’ve got 20 points from 24, we have 6 wins and 2 draws (both away from home), a goal difference of +8 and if results go our way, may end up 3 points clear in third this evening.

    That form of the last 8 games, played out over a full season, is 95 points and an average result of a 2-1 win. While only 1/5 of the season, that’s a title winning form.

    Now, I’m not suggesting in any way that winning the title should have happened, but it does beg the question that if Ruben Amorim had gone out of his way to coach the team to play in a formation that best suited our talents and made us difficult to break down, could we have challenged for the title this year?

    When I think of some of the performances and points dropped by his insistence on a formation that clearly wasn’t working (and didn’t work for most of last season either so it’s not like he wasn’t aware of it), and the more I see our current form, which while not brilliant we’ve definitely deserved the results we got, the more I feel we’ve missed an opportunity at a title shot this year, especially the way the season is panning out.

    Whether we would have been successful or not is another thing, but we would have had a massive shot at it this season I feel.

    10 man Everton at home, Leeds away, Wolves at home, Bournemouth at home, West Hame at home, keeping the rest of the results of the season, that’s another 11 very possible points from just 5 games we could have but don’t because of how we were set up to let teams sit back and run through us through the middle due to Amorim’s system. And that 11 points extra right now would have us playing tonight for to go clear at the top of the table.

    It’s the frustration of what could have been this season had we started the season as we’re currently playing.

    Alas, we are where we are, so let’s hope for another win, Chelsea and Villa draw and we solidify 3rd spot and have our CL qualification fate fully in our own hands.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I don't think we have the squad to have been competing for the PL this year, regardless of manager.

    While we can point to Amorim's rigidity and not playing a system that suited the players he had, it's also important to realize that our squad wasn't good enough to cope with AFCON and the injuries at that time.

    Whether we would by X points better off is hard to say, Everton and Wolves (their recent results have shown that draw to be 'less worse') really stick in my mind, but maybe we don't get the wins against City and Arsenal (both of those games in particular) if we weren't on our new manager bounce.

    You could go into other variables such as Sesko, who's goals have gotten us a lot of recent points. Was he not performing as well because of Amorim / Amorim's system, or would he have improved anyway after half a year settling in. Personally, I think Carrick gets a bit of credit for Sesko's improvement but it's hard to be definite.

    I don't miss Amorim but I think Carrick has benefited from the likes of Cunha, Mbeumo, Lammens, Sesko all being that bit more settled into the team. Amorim probably/maybe would have gotten the benefit from that as well.

    TLDR - I don't think we'd be anywhere near on course for 95 points with any manager. And I think we would probably only be a little (3-5 points max) better off with Carrick for the full season over Amorim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Jack Fletcher handed a further four match ban for his red card in the EFL cup game against Barnsley back in November for a homophobic comment he made towards another player. He's already served three of the four games and I'm assume that's why he hasn't been in the first team squad even though the ban was for non first team games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,304 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I think things could have been better, but I don't think we could have challenged for a title. The limitations we are also seeing under Carrick (Midfield legs, fullback creativity/threat, depth) would have cost us regardless.

    6 wins in 7 has been great, but within that you can argue we got the better of small margins vs Fulham, West Ham, Everton, Palace and even Spurs. I think after City and Arsenal, we have not been impressive, while getting results. and yes, results are what matters but I think over a season you also generally get the results your performances deserve. If we had drawn vs Fulham, lost to West Ham and drawn with palace would we be sitting here saying we were robbed on 3 points in those games?

    I'll not argue there were cases a chance in tactics, particularly mid-game, could have won us the game under amorim - Everton and West Ham; but I also think there were (some) games where our performance didn't get the results it deserved. Bournemouth 4-4, and the loss to Villa sping to mind.

    Maybe I am being mean regarding Carrick or defensive regarding Amorim (or both) but I do think there is an element of small margins going in Carricks favour, that Amorim saw go the other way. I do think there are elements of our player that were better under Amorim (our pressing was far better, I worry our fitness looked better and according to the stats our chance creation was better too). Under Carrick I think we are better defensively and get compact quicker. I think Bruno is more effective closer to the goal and I think Sesko is getting more support.

    Given the squad we have, and the weaknesses of it, I think where we are right now is really the best we could have hoped for this season - maybe if we had bought a CM i'd think a bit differently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,561 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    The matches for April being changed to 8pm kick offs is a real **** pain. So many of the United games have been midweek and/or late kick offs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Maguire found guilty in Greece and gets 15mths suspended sentence. He has launched an appeal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭Corvo


    This is my thinking on it. He will go back to the counter attacking line up with Mbeumo up front.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,674 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    I think he has to start Big Ben again tbh. A game like this where the opposition wont sit deep is made for him, his pace is electric and with the service available from BF, Cunha and Batty pinging long balls he could bag himself a couple. His confidence is high too and for this type of game he offers more than Amad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Hate this fixture. They always seem to have way more energy, physicality and just power through. In saying that, they are 13th this season and we are due a win there, so fingers crossed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,397 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Newcastle are 19th in the form table, lost 5 of their past 6 games. Missing their captain and arguably best player.

    Carrick will lose games, thats inevitable, but I'd be disappointed if tonight was when it happened. Newcastle are in dire form and we should be beating them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


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