US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

If only there was some sort of a board set up recently that could try and attempt this.

Not sure what is should be called but how about "Board of Not Starting Wars"?

meaningful??

Reasons for the collapse by Trump were

• Sunset Provisions: Critics argued that the deal's restrictions on Iran’s nuclear activities were temporary (some set to expire between 2026 and 2031), merely delaying rather than permanently preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
• Ballistic Missile Program: The agreement focused strictly on nuclear enrichment and did not address Iran’s development of ballistic missiles, which the U.S. viewed as a primary delivery method for nuclear warheads.
• Regional "Malign Activities": The Trump administration argued the deal provided Iran with a "windfall" of billions of dollars in sanctions relief, which it allegedly used to fund terrorism and proxy wars in Syria, Yemen, and Lebanon.
• Inspection Gaps: Opponents claimed the IAEA inspection regime was not "anytime, anywhere" and did not grant sufficient access to Iranian military sites.

The EU, China and Russia were in favour to keep the deal going but after Iran started to make weapons grade uranium the EU uses the snapback clause.

Iran FAFO

"Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff two of the best negotiators in the world"

So says Hegseth......say what now, best negotiators in the world, really?

Really?

I suppose you have yo factor in extreme ideology/religious zealotry to any and all musings about what groups might do

Maga is a cult of sorts too....look at the stupid **** many of their supporters want.....how many will look back and consider if they would change their actions

Factor In some peoples extreme dislike of admitting they may have been incorrect...especially when they march themselves up a hill

I think you may be incorrect about the bit about them having no idea about the effects on Hormuz Straits.....a total moron would be aware of that, even this administration

I'd be surprised if they haven't found a way to profit from it through various avenues.....if they haven't then they really are the dimmest bunch ever to be in control......many of them strike me as the disaster capitalist types....they don't give a **** if the ordinary citizen loses as long as they themselves profit handsomely

This one does look like it could get away from them however even in the short term never mind the long term....so it could be chaotic and part of that is because the guy at the very tippy top is a moron....

The Azeris are the biggest minority. They could receive support from their fellow Azeris across the border in Azerbaijan. I think the Kurds might be easier to persuade to fight. They’d want to look at the small print, though.

Fair enough....but an awful lot of simpletons must have voted for him too

Hegseth says US has sunk an Iranian warship in international waters near Sri Lanka.

The bright people also sound like simpletons when they try to justify what he has done.

Like the old buffer zone in Lebanon. Like the buffer zone in Syria. Like the yellow line in Gaza. Some chance. Jordan will be next and part of the West Bank will be a buffer zone.

what I have noticed about these type of people they seem incapable of realising that no candidate is perfect. They seem to not realise that decisions are made between two imperfect options and we have to choose the least worst option. By tarnishing all candidates, they are effectively supporting the worst candidate with their moral equivalency arguments. Also, another cardinal feature of their logic is letting emotions and instinct dictate how they think. They want simplistic solutions and are unwilling to accept the complexity of the issues at hand. Their solutions are superficially plausible. But if you try to probe and do back of the cigarette box figures with them, they become defensive and it becomes an ad hominem attack