Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Any person that has seen human grief up close and in the rawest form despairs at the idea of so much grief. It doesn’t matter who you are; pain is terrible in all scenarios. Seeing a grieving person makes my heart heavy. Why are certain people so oblivious to the pain that they unleash on their fellow people

Merz is a fool for going. Once Iran kicked off he should have come down with a flu.

I think more worrying than Merz not saying anything live on TV( personally I agree with keeping his mouth shut but theres an argument for both) is that EU leaders seem so ridiculously naieve and constantly caught in headlights when it comes to Trumps carry on.

The thing is most countries have been already through issuing joint statements to refute whatever drivel fell from Trumps mouth since he got back in. And even then by the time the rebuttal has been issued he's already moved on to insulting someone else.

Mark Carney was on the money when he said the old US led world order is gone, don't waste time and energy waiting fot the old world to reemerge. Canadians know up close that too many US voters have zero concept of the damage that reelecting Trump is doing to their own prospects. It's like too many of them cannot understand that there can be negative consequences for blaming their allies and trade partners for all their own domestic failures.

There was a meeting last year between Xi and Trump but it was off a trip to South Korea or Japan, I can't remember which but it was not a public show as Beijing takes diplomatic missions very seriously, whereas Trump just treats them as another venue to slobber out insults.

It`s already been explained to you multiple times why this money was returned to Iran but you persist in it being due to Epstein blackmailing Clinton to give $400 million to Iran. Why would Epstein, Trump`s buddy, want to see Iran getting paid this $400 million. So he and his buddies could have a safe haven for their raping of minors ?

It sounds far fetched for even MAGA to believe, but then again MAGA were big into the QAnon Pizzagate conspiracy farce although we haven`t heard from them since Republicans began going through hell and high water to prevent the release of the Epstein files.

Irish Taoisigh have always gone to the White House to meet the President of the day.

By refusing to meet Trump, Martin would therefore be guilty of exactly what you are accusing Trump of doing - meddling in the internal politics of the USA.

I think that he has no choice but to go, as I previously expressed in my posts. I just wouldn’t be surprised if he starts railing on about the persecution of McGregor and the desperate state of Irish immigration. He has no right to comment on our internal affairs. It will engender a lot of rage and will look MM look impotent in the eyes of certain voters. But I don’t see an alternative solution, but for MM to attend

According to a BBC report posted earlier by @Economics101 (post 51125) Merz later told Trump he could not do any deal with the E.U. that did not include all E.U. states. Something I very much doubt he wasn`t already aware of and his comment was only an attempt by him to bait Merz into a response that would allow him to go off on another of his fanciful lying rants that his MAGA love and swallow up unquestioned.

There was nothing to be gained by the E.U. by Merz rising to the bait.

If Trump can't agree topics and issues to discuss then any meeting with other governments is pointless.

The whole Oval Office Shamrock presentation was never really a formal intergovernmental affair with a defined agenda. It's more a legacy calendar event from the Clinton era that makes zero difference if Trump didn't bother to get out of bed that morning.

He's already has slapped 10% on everyone so regardless have of how well anyone sucked up to him since he got back in.

To quote from the movie Tropic Thunder, "don't ever go full retard!". That just sounds like a challenge to Trump.

Agriculture is a better answer than the one I got. A left-wing activist told me that we could take back the fisheries given to the EU in the 1970s. Apart from the fact that they are mostly exhausted, he couldn't fathom the difference between 1970s economics and the world of today.