Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

The bit about the island the UK Govt handed over to the locals, the one the US sees as a very useful military facility [would have been useful in the war now] was Trump complaining totally with words to the effect "they gave it to the locals born there" - break in speaking - "who knows where they came from".

Thats all rubbish. Most people in the US live a life that the vast majority of the rest of the world can only dream of. I have sympathy for them, but they also need to take responsibility for their own choices. You could almost see their POV on Trump 1, but not when they voted for him again and then voted in even larger numbers a third time.

That there is so little outrage at his latest lie, that he would not get into any wars, shows they really don't care. They just wanted to wallow in the racism, misogyny and the attack on 'others'. Plain and simple.

Yes, there are a lot of people struggling in the US, but more than in other countries? More than the refugees crossing the border? Why do we give a pass to the US citizens when they have no empathy for anyone else?

If their country is such a hellhole, then whose fault is that? Maybe instead of spending billions on yet another war, they could get better healthcare? Are there many protests happening? No.

It is messed up that people go bankrupt from cancer. People die from lack of inhalers or go disabled from lack of access to treatments for rheumatoid arthritis. Sure, they are comforted by consumerism. But if they lose their job, they lose their health insurance. They work, work, work until they die. They are exhausted. The corporate grind is more real over there. Access to third-level education is a privilege for few. The schooling system is in decline. Pensions are not a guarantee. And the idea of home ownership is no longer viable for many. They die on the job. We have all watched TV shows, like Friends and Gilmore Girls, where they live privileged lives. But this is not the life of the average American. If I choose between a decent chunk of annual leave or a new iPhone, I know what I will pick. I work to live, they live to work

I have zero empathy for either side in this conflict. The Iranian leadership has slaughtered 36,000 demonstrators since the new year. The Iranian leadership are together with Nethinathu and Trumps regimes, a waste of oxygen.

Here you get a letter in the post letting you know where your voting centre is, which you need to have when you turn up on the day to collect the actual ballot paper. Show the posted letter to the designated centre manager to guide you to your voting room where you exchange the letter for your areas candidate ballot paper from the room clerks. They tick your name off their printed voters list to avoid error.

The ballot paper bear the candidates photos and personal/party details, plus a blank box beside each to number your choice of candidate in numerical order, 1,2,3, etc in pencil only [No pens]. Fill in at a booth, fold it to conceal your choice & put it in the sealed ballot paper box in the room by the clerks desk. Job done.

Its usual for schools to be designated centres, with rooms set up for different neighbourhood areas according to the visual print and braille markings signed on the letter you got in the post. Hand count only, no machines, all paperwork, small country.

Each county/constituency has a separate count centre where all the boxes are taken for count result by the returning officer for the constituency or county who publicly declares the name and party of the winner, plus the vote tally the candidate got. Ditto for the eliminated candidates, as they are dropped off the list as being outside the required ballot number result. Think that it for the voting set-up.

Re my mention of uniform, meant that as a positive, like a passport or service I/D card.

Most people would realise how evil the Iranian regimen is- this is never in question. However, if external forces start deciding to pick and choose which nations ought to be targeted and the subject of external “democracy”, where is the transparency and justice? There are many countries in the world that have committed heinous crimes against humanity. Should we target them all? Or just the ones with oil? There needs to be a due process. We have to acknowledge the sovereignty of a nation. And when we do intervene, it should follow the principles of the doctrine of double effect. We have to do so with the sole intention of the good deed. It cannot be muddied by other nefarious intent.

Trump turns everything into a political campaign.

In fairness, if he knows about one thing, it's escorts....

I don`t believe leaders of E.U. countries give much or any importance to whatever particular hobby horse Trump is riding on any given day. It will be another hobby horse tomorrow, so to engage with him would just be playing into his distraction games and they have better for doing.

If he carries out any of his rambling threats like a child that is not getting its way, such as cutting trade with Spain, then he will quickly find that while they really could not be arsed with his sulks over particular member states, if he did actually carry out his threats he would very quickly find himself in a very different situation requiring a very rapid TACO.

A dose of the ****? I mean, nobody ever lies about diarrhoea. He could say that he picked up something when he was on the tear

100% how the worm has turned....I'd say Trump if he bothers to show up will be about as thrilled with a bowl of shamrock as a bowl of horseshit

Michael may need to spray a bit of gold paint on them and sprinkle some cubic zirconia dust all over the shop the more tasteless and tacky the better...put in a couple of big macs in the bowl call him daddy and bend over the oval office desk and agree to any request....SOP for humouring a deranged loon that somehow ascended to one of the most powerful offices on the globe....

Deleted original, just seen Everlast75's post on Trumps latest offer of state cover to oil industry above.