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Should we be taking notice of the stocking up for 72hours here or is it just Scaremongering?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,714 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Absolutely, best laid plans of weeks of frozen food could go array in just a matter of hours if electricity is off for an extended period.

    Freezer will take days to fully defrost as long you keep door opening to a minimum. Fridge will warm up quicker but you could transfer the stuff you plan to eat from the freezer in there to thaw and it will act as cooler blocks for a period.

    We had a blackout for about 90 minutes a few years back and my next door neighbour was complaining about having to throw everything in her freezer out. I was like, please tell me you didn't actually do that??? The stuff wouldn't have even started to thaw in that short a time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    By “hours” I was thinking like 72 hours or so - ie more extreme version of a power cut - certainly what you say is correct - a few hours without electricity, your freezer will be fine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,714 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Will stay frozen for 24-48 hours in a powercut, depending on the size of the freezer and how much is in it (and as long as you keep the door closed, obvs).

    Food and Water Safety During Power Outages and Floods | FDA

    It's the people who can't cook from scratch who'll struggle most in any kind of prolonged power outage situation. If you're used to throwing prepped stuff into the microwave or air-fryer on a daily basis you'll have a hard time feeding yourself from a stove or barbie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Orban6


    I had that problem during the big freeze.

    You really don't want to know!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭Pat734


    No water in Ireland? If you have a bucket you'll always find enough water to fill it. Good job a lot of you didn't live in the 50's and 60's



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,452 ✭✭✭corkie


    @LambshankRedemption The central heating is gas powered, but due I suppose to health and safety, you can no-longer light the pilot light with a match like you used to be able to, it is now electric.

    Your worried about the pilot light? How is your heating circulated? Electric Pump!

    And modern gas boilers need electricity to power it anyway.

    Post edited by corkie on

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Orban6


    During the freeze a few years ago, there was NO flowing water where I lived. Septic tank had totally frozen up. No tap water and no water to fill the cistern, not that it would have mattered as I couldn't flush it anyway. . Neighbours who were on their own well had no water either.

    Good job you didn't live where I live.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,714 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Of course, the most important step in prepping for likely power outages is to put your white wine in the freezer early doors so you're not stuck drinking it at room temperature like some kind of caveman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,070 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    If everyone just sat tight and not rush out panic buying then the prices wont shoot up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    During that big freeze we were renting a house that hadn't had the attic insulated so all the heat would go straight up. When the big thaw came loads of our neighbours with insulated attics suddenly has water gushing from the roof.

    Anyway, we're definitely going solar as soon as the bank balance is topped up again. Thankfully I filled the heating oil when there was a price lull before xmas.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I'm not worried about it, I'm just stating, I know it wont work without electricity. Which is why I have alternatives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭rtron


    The uk have been informing their citizens for months on this. Where the warning in Ireland?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    The UK wouldn't have a great culture of planning meals in advance. When I was there some logistics company went bust which affected chicken deliveries to KFC. Some people went nuts to the point that the police had to ask the public to stop ringing them about it.

    "For those who contacted the police about KFC being out of chicken...please STOP" officers in Manchester pleaded.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-43140836

    It's probably a legacy of factory culture where fast food was often the main meal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    At the christmas dinner of an organisation I was involved in, one of the guys was eating his christmas dinner, turkey and ham, with his fingers because he didn't know how to use a knife and fork. He said in his house they only ever got stuff from the takeway, so chips, burgers kebab etc, all finger food. This guy was mid 20's, not 9 or 10!

    Some people do live on fast food, and quite literally live and depend on it.

    I can't imagine it, and it must cost a fortune!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    It was really interesting in north England to see that the chippers on traditional red brick factory terraces would do most of their business at lunch and tea and then close by 7.30-8pm.

    You have to go to a kabab shop after that.

    One day while eating in a proper Napolitano pizza restaurant in manchester I overheard an English family complain that it wasn't real pizza as it was floppy and needed a knife and fork to eat it, whereas freezer to oven pizza like they buy in Tesco was better cause you can just eat it with your hand.

    England, never a food bastion. Although I must say up north England they had some fine Cumberland sausages.

    Again though, that's just more hand to mouth convenience fair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,324 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    I was 6days without electricity in that storm last year in january (storm eowyn) and i was going batsh!t then … at least we had water running out the taps so could pull chain.
    the latest 72hour prep thing that's bounding about is making sure you stock up on water (drinking water) as well as food .
    love the way they are saying randomly 72hours it could be a lot longer than that in fact the instability of the world at the moment any country could be in it for the long haul I dont think WW3 way but I do think could be getting serious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Funnily enough I spent a week in Naples in around 2018, and I got a series of what I would call absolutely terrible pizzas. My mother used to make pizzas from scratch, so Im fully aware what a "real" pizza is like, but these were all absolutely terrible. That whole trip to Naples/Napoli was a disaster from start to finish.

    Sat at the gate waiting for the flight home, sat behind me was an under-16 football team flying back to dublin, one of the lads turned to the other and said "I cant wait to get back to dublin to have a decent pizza". I thought, yeah, my sentiments exactly. I wasn't referring to a dominos, or a goodfellas, there's a decent pizzaria near me that do traditional type pizzas, but what I got over there were just awful. Service was terrible. Napoli taxis don't have a meter they have a random number generator. I could go on but I wont.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,324 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-households-told-stockpile-72-36801823




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    Interesting. I've yet to stay in Naples but did stay in Pompeii for half week while exploring all the archeaology sites in the middle of winter. Where ever I saw the local cops eating that's where I went and they were great, and cheap. The menus for the "pack them in" venues were twice the price.

    I do the same everytime in Italy, look for a police car or cops, see where they hang out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    It's a red top source, the type that tells us there's another "Killer Beast From the East" due to a bit of cold wind.

    Find the actual EU communique and I'll credit that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_856

    Promoting Population Preparedness:

    • Encourage the public to adopt practical measures, such as maintaining essential supplies for a minimum of 72 hours in emergencies.
    • Integrate preparedness lessons into school curricula and introduce an EU Preparedness Day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,031 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Unless you're worried about the supermarkets closing I wouldn't bother. Bear in mind the supermarkets stayed open throughout covid and most sensible people were laughing at the the panic buyers. This will blow over in a few days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    Thanks. Well I'm usually stocked up for a week, but maybe it's because we came from a frugal background with a few bags of spuds, carrots and onions always in the shed I really don't get why people aren't mostly already prepared.

    The lock downs were a good training.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    My only advice for Naples is don't go to Naples.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭yagan


    We're totally off topic, but I hear you. I only passed through and it was chaos. Pompeii was sleepy, cheaper and quiet, which is why I picked it as a base.

    The one thing I will brave Naples for is the Archeaology Museum on my next trip to that part of the world.

    Pompeii is a good reminder that everything we know can change very suddenly.

    BTW, I actually hired a car in Sicily and that broke me, they're crazy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Mrs Shuttleworth


    Those self-proclaimed "soft, chewy" "authentic" pizzas so beloved of hipster "Top Ten Pizza in Dublin" lists are bloody awful. Thick burned soft dough with thin tomato "soup" style sauce swimming in the middle and lumps of raw mozzarella on the top.

    Best pizza I've had is in a restaurant in Dean Street Soho London where they brought a special electric oven over from the US.

    On topic - most supermarkets sell chilled pizzas that will keep in a fridge or a very cold location for a few days. Freezer not always necessary. Would need to be cooked on a wood fire pizza oven in the garden though.

    Rickety old kettle barbeque and tinned stuff will be my diet if everything goes south.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    I load the checkout so that when packing, bags are already lined up for fridge/freezer/cupboard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    Sure the take-aways will stay open. Tis grand



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