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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Hopefully this will push more people to using solar. Good thing were approaching the warmer months so less heating required.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,323 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Irans strategy summed up.


    Also, mounting speculation that Qatar has already attacked Iran.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,529 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    An opinion piece that references materials from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is to be treated suspiciously. Some of what this writer says is accurate, a lot is opinion and guesses at intentions. Still, he could have done a better job and not quoted that odious screed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If we were located where the UAE are we'd have been bombed for Shannon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    You are right they were abandoned in Syria

    But Iran did attack their infrastructure and their capital in Iraq

    That’s what I keep pointing out, Iran lashing out at everyone around them is the height of strategic stupidity



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    The actions of a regime in their death throes tend not to be rational.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    Dublin I say

    It’s about same distance from Shannon as Dubai is from UAE military air base in Abu Dhabi



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    This wider regional conflict though… Iran is fighting against US, Israel, the Gulf states, and possibly European states too.

    Russia and China are not pitching in, so, how could this war spiral? Iran's military capacities are being taken out. So, I am asking, is this regional war almost done?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,137 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    At the risk of applying logic where Iran brought none…

    Well, if the US paid heed to Gulf States:

    Then hitting the less protected Gulf States could make a certain amount of military sense - forcing them to put pressure on US to agree a ceasefire.
    There's no point Iran sitting on a stockpile of missiles\drones because it will get taken out by US & Israel.
    What other target should they hit with the missiles that would achieve same goal? Open to suggestion.

    But then if the US paid heed to such things they wouldn't have launched the attacks in first place.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    There's a certain rationality in that, but that pressure is hardly likely to have effect now.

    And yes, best use those weapons while they exist. But this is an almost scorched earth behaviour; the death throes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I was surprised to read earlier that the ex president of Iran who has reportedly been killed was a vocal opponent of the Russian war in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    As an aside, its amazing that you have a coalition of Israel, America, Saudi Arabia, and possibly the Gulf states in a grand coalition against Iran.

    I doubt many normal folks would categorise what is unfolding in the Middle East as "amazing".

    I find it striking that some who were outraged at 30,000 Iranian protestors killed are apparently thrilled that the place is now being continuously bombed.

    Of course, there are those who absolutely get off on war, death, tracer fire, screaming jets and attack helicopters tearing the backsides out of anything and everything. I guess they probably would call it "amazing".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    If this is the death throes, I still think the US will have to put troops on the ground to put them out of their misery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Why then did he sell billions worth of arms to Russia?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-12/iran-is-said-to-have-sent-russia-2-7-billion-worth-of-missiles

    Usually when the ex-President supported something, that was consistent with his actions. He supported the mass murders at the music festival in Israel on Oct 7th a few years ago because he armed Hamas who carried it out.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    And the US has recently been hinting at that need, although denying it before the decision to strike.

    That will alienate the American public. And without clear aims, there's a risk for the US of another Iraq or Vietnam.

    Messy stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    Finally someone asking interesting questions that are not continuation of “my deplorable team has scored” theme

    —-


    Ideally for everyone there’s a ceasefire soon

    If there isn’t in short term and Iran keeps lashing out at everyone but Israel and US whom the have trouble even scratching, all they accomplish is endup with a coalition of very angry dozen or so gulf states and factions whose very political and economic existence is now threatened by Iran whom do have the manpower and modern equipment to occupy key positions that could free up commerce and resume life to some sort of normalcy in the Gulf with US, UK and gulf states who do have modern air power with their modern navies maintaining complete air superiority and blockade via the sea

    Them mountain ranges that ring Iran can work both ways and bottle up any response, provided there is anyone left who is not to busy fighting each other for power

    In medium term I see Trump running away leaving the gulf states with this mess, he did it to Europe and Ukraine, expect the very same “we done so much for you ungrateful freeloaders” rhetoric

    In the long term if there is still no ceasefire most the gulf states will form a nuclear Cordon Sanitare around Iran racing themselves to get nuclear weapons (something about Saudi Arabia getting them is terrifying but that’s another subject)

    The Gulf states are now in a fight they didn’t want to be where their very political and economic existence been threatened

    As for China they are in bind, most their energy comes from the region so the longer this goes on {and since they been cut out of other markets} they might pitch in to protect their own shipping, same with India



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    His position was at odds with that of his country. He didn't sell them to Russia as he was last in power back in 2013.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Exactly. US has lighten the fuse, and will run. But they cannot end the war they started. The region will pay the price.

    And the race for a nuke will spread across the globe.

    This reckless behaviour of US and Israel will leave us in a more dangerous world.

    Thanks, Trump and Bibi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    Talk on Fox news that they hit the council that was meeting to elect the new supreme leader.

    UAE are also reported to be saying that they support what the US is doing as opposed to telling them to calm things down.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,168 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I've been totting up the potential costs of the past few days solely for the GCC countries that have reported the missile and drone numbers as reported by them this morning.
    The high end air defence missiles expended and dealt with by the Gulf States, and not counting any American or Israeli launches is already IMO at $6 billion and rising.

    America is laughing all the way to the bank on this one as apart from the S.Korean KM-SAM?
    They supply the other systems and they will be doing the resupply.

    The assumptions underpinning my estimates are as follows;
    UAE uses KM-SAM (plus THAAD/Patriot);
    Saudi Arabia and Qatar use THAAD (plus Patriot); Bahrain and Kuwait rely on Patriot PAC-3/MSE.
    I'm not counting drones as they will be unlikely to attract a High end interceptor unless missed by lower tier protection VSHORAD and gun systems.
    I've split out the likely firing rate on a split basis as follows:
    UAE: 20% THAAD/40% Patriot/40% KM-SAM;
    others: 30% THAAD where available/70% Patriot, 100% Patriot elsewhere).
    1.8 interceptors per incoming, and same unit costs ($13M THAAD, $5M Patriot, $2M KM-SAM).

    Screenshot_2026-03-03-17-25-17-675_ai.perplexity.app.android-edit.jpg

    I've tried entering my table as a .CSV and as an extract and it just won't play nicely with vanilla.
    Annoying to say the least.
    I've swapped in an image and left my .csv available.

    The numbers of missiles fired at GCC states are at least somewhat available.
    Trying to find numbers for those fired towards Israel is as it was last June, very difficult to pin down.


    So let's assume that the same numbers are fired towards Israel, 550 and a similar interceptor launch rate of 1.8 missiles per incoming.
    Temper the burn rate with the use of Arrow, David's Sling and US SM3 & SM6 all of which apart from David's Sling, are $4 million dollar plus missiles.
    A similar amount of missiles have been expended and a similar level of resupply will be needed.
    At minimum if the Israeli targets are similar, another $6 billion already burned through.

    That brings us to my guess at as of this morning, approx 2000 high end air defence missiles have been fired.

    Missiles that couldn't be supplied to Ukraine, missiles that were and are significant parts of the defence strategy of Taiwan, Japan, Europe and particularly Ukraine.
    Missiles that will take literally years to replace and will guarantee production for Raytheon, LM and other big US companies for years to come

    Interesting to see that the US are long fingering resupply requests by the GCC states.
    Being reliant upon a supplier that is slow to respond and resupply could cause problems down the road and further open the ME missile and fighter market to China and South Korea.

    Post edited by banie01 on


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Nice work @banie01 👍️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,323 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Russia and China have no truck in getting involved.

    So at the moment, this war is contained and appears not to escalate anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,323 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The heavy hitters (B-52s) are now in action.
    Confirms total air supremacy. There is an almost unlimited number of bombs that can be dropped on IRGC and regime targets now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,529 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Trump seems eager to bring the UK into his war.

    “This is not Winston Churchill we're dealing with,” the president said.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    So, we have three theocracies fighting it out. Lovely. :/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,334 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Statements from Marco Rubio and Mike Johnson saying that the US got involved because Israel was going to act with or without the US, make it categorically clear that Israel is controlling the US. It is classic tail wagging the dog territory.

    This conflict is entirely unjust and if all the countries that had the opportunity to stand up for the ICC, which they ostensibly are in support of, and the warrants they have issued for Netanyahu and others, this would likely not have happened.

    And with respect to all the comments about Iran escalating and attacking others. They are attacking US bases in various other countries, I am not denying that. Nor am I saying that they should be doing so. But after 2 years of the Israel (and the US) attacking other countries in the name of self defence, surely no one can now argue that those countries were right, but that now Iran is wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Only the IT seems to have that story on this side of the pond. It's not clear if the actual meeting was hit as opposed to the building it was supposedly taking place in.

    Iran latest: Strikes hit building in Tehran where clerics deciding on new supreme leader – The Irish Times

    Strikes hit building of body tasked with electing new supreme leader of Iran

    The building of Iran’s assembly of experts has been targeted in an air attack, Reuters reports.

    The assembly of experts is a council of about 90 senior clerics that is tasked with electing Iran’s new Supreme Leader.

    The building is located in the city of Qom, south of Tehran. Local media showed footage of the building severely damaged in the strikes, AFP reports.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Let's just call it… a special military operation.

    That gets around the pesky need for US Congress approval for declaring war, according to their constitution, eh?

    Good thinking.



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