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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,122 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    they added it back again! Cottage industries are good, lots of people buying dashcams from TopBYD as the car is prewired but doesnt include one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    It's ridiculous that all manufacturers don't have front and rear proper quality Sony starvis sensors in them and SD card slot for recording and removal in this day and age.

    If this was the 80s and that tech was around you can guarantee many would have them in as standard and or a selling item. Mazda of the 90s used to be a fiend for tech loading their cars.

    I'll forever miss the velour type seating in 90s Mazda's 626 , 323.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,122 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    yes i agree, at least with the chinese cars and tesla its either there or easy to add, woe betide anyone wanting security features like that on an audi,

    sentry mode is brilliant as well and should be adopted by all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    It is you bringing emotion and irrationality into the discussion. I merely look at your man's bank account. That is logical, rational and unemotional. I do not own TSLA shares (I do own XPEV, one of its biggest competitors)

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    No emotion here. Just responding to you're consistent claim you never defend the man. It's all most subversive at this point. Id prefer you just come out and stand on business. You laud him and count his acumen as amongst the finest humans that ever walked the earth.

    Cos.... He's loaded sure he must be genius.

    Let's cut the charade and we can get back to it. 👍



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Yes obviously very rich people must be geniuses if they made the money themselves in a fair way (so not like Putin or Arafat or the like). That applies to all rich people. That is purely logical, no? Is your issue the green eyed monster? Have you a problem with all billionaires, or just the richest few? Or somehow for some emotional reason, just with Musk?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    BTW I agree that the future of Tesla cars within the Tesla company is uncertain. The car division might well be sold to a company with poor tech / poor R&D skills and spend but lots of cash. Like Apple

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    But again, I'm not emotional. I'm stating facts. You're the one who keeps saying emotional and being musks bank account into it as if it signifies that he's better than me .. or us mortals ?

    It's a fairly odd line of reasoning, you might say it's emotive. Why are you emotion about another person's wealth ? I'm just judging him based on his personal output and capabilities to destroy multiple brands in short order.

    I don't think that shows any level of genius thinking merely someone who's interests are fleeting and often move on a regular basis.

    Why does that make you so emotional? I haven't attached you to musks output. Just questioned you on your claim to not support or defend him.

    Can we put that topic to bed ? Stand on business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I'm just saying that very rich people must be doing something right. So it makes more sense logically to believe them over a random poster on the internet who says the opposite and claims the rich men are doing it all wrong 😉

    Still no idea where your emotion against rich people comes from, or is it just against Musk? You have refused to answer this several times

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I answered it multiple times.

    You are the one trying to bring emotions into the conversation. It's very weird.

    Im thinking it's a naive and vain attempt to rile people who simply don't care enough for what you are trying to do. To be bothered by it.

    Note rich doesn't qualify for intelligence. There's a vast array of research in this portion of the human physhe if you wish to read up.

    Just a thought.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    All that aside, why are you the most prolific Musk referrer on this thread? It's odd behaviour.

    If you asked him to pay a bit of rent you'd be up a good few quid🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    There is no correlation between being a self made billionaire and being intelligent? Now I've heard it all.

    And show me one time where your hatred / emotion against Musk is explained. It seems very emotional and illogical to me. Did one of his actions hurt you in any way?

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I discuss the Tesla brand and the vehicles, when someone asks me about the mans input then il discuss that.

    I think it's a fairly middle of the road position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    He's not self made though. Are you one of those folks that doesn't read ? It seems that way.

    I suppose it's better to be entrailed by the mystique that someone works hard to cultivate than understand any real details of how they got there.

    X = Y . Aye!

    Can we move back to Tesla sales now and what's happening next? Or are you going to continue on a failed path of chatting emotions ? 🤷‍♂️.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,122 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    in what way is he not self made? i've read several books on him and id conclude he is self made. Coming from a middle class background wouldnt change my opinion on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Well we know his family wasn't middle class for example they owned extensive property developments and his father owned engineering firms in SA. Not middle class a multi millionaire.

    He paid for Elons college and move to Canada and the US. And in various interviews said as much. However Elon the ever trust worthy soul claims none of this is true and said he paid for all of this himself.

    He's a liar always has been. But nothing new people who are given large legs up in life always pretend they did it all themselves and are salt or the earth or some such.

    What I do enjoy is when you point that out people attack you as if

    A) I have a problem with wealth. (Ive a problem with lies and hubris)

    And

    B) You don't actually have 2 pennies to rub together myself and are just plain jealous (a highly amusing artifact)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,122 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    i dont recall 'attacking' anyone in that manner?

    My parents paid for my university and lodgings at the time, does that mean anything i do subsequently means im not self made? Turning a paid for university education into richest man in the world status is a pretty exceptional feat in my opinion.

    Maybe we have different perceptions of what self made is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I wasn't specifically saying you said that or that you were attacking anyone. Please see thread to this point.

    Did you multi millionaire parents send you from Ireland to Canada and then on to top universities in the US whilst also paying for your lodgings and everything else ?

    And then did you claim that you paid for all of this and you had zero assistance?

    Or like a normal human being did your middle class parents assist you in your education and you took that and worked hard . Would you deny their input ?

    This is a sticking point for me where people praise liars and don't see the difference.

    This isn't a wealth problem it's ethics, consciousnesses and attitude. Id assume you are well aware and happy to praise what your parents did for you then and at any time afterwards.

    (Like any normal person)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    A few more countries have reprted. Bestsellingcarsblog.com is reporting sales for February around Europe as they trickle in. It looks like Tesla are stuck at less than 40% occupancy in their factory based on that level of demand. There seems to be a healthy demand for small cheap Chinese cars in many of the countries. Renault and VAG will address that demand but when you can get a Leap T03 for 4k in Italy or a Dacia Spring for 6k in Germany it is hard to turn a profit.

    Ideal outcome for consumers would be Tesla use the plant for a compact class car but Musk's heart isn't in the game anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,031 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Italy and Germany must be offering huge tax incentives on EV purchases to be able to buy cars for 4k-6k which will help all EV brands, including Tesla



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,122 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Hi multi millionaire parents were long separated though and none of this sounds that glamourous! Depends on whether you believe him or not.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/30/elon-musk-says-he-had-six-figures-in-student-debt-after-college.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Tesla customer in Germany would be higher earner and usually ordering through an employer. This is a scheme aimed at low to middle income earners buying or leasing themselves and as soon as the government can arrange the laws they will exclude manufacturers who don't have a very high e.u. content.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    This part of the reason why Stellantis is practically giving away the Leap T03. It is a weirdly proportioned car when you see it in the flesh but it balances the books.

    So Tesla has lost CO2 credits in US and loosing them in E.U. and the rest of the world doesn't care much.

    https://www.electrive.com/2026/03/03/toyota-and-stellantis-withdraw-from-co%e2%82%82-pool-with-tesla/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I don't, he's proven to be a liar. His travel accommodation, visas, eating and start up seeds all funded. The consummate spoofer.

    Even his dad funded his start up Zip2. There's paper trail to all this. The man's a liar and the self made is part of the fabricated mystique.

    Anyway way off topic at this point I guess. We can resume Tesla updates and Tesla related sales figures, progress hardware , news yada



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,122 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    His dad took part in a funding round for Zip2, something like 20k usd, that business sold for 300m.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,883 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Ya seed funding. It's how people get a leg up.

    He claims to not have got this and that he got all his money from second renting his student house or some nonsense.

    See what I'm getting at here is not people getting help to build businesses. It's lying about it. It shows his character, and to this day it's how he operates. A liar.

    No problem with wealth I've explained a few times what I take issue with .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Tesla should definitely do a compact car. Something like the i3 😋

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Absolutely, I had a passenger today who loved the Model Y but said it was too big for him. And Model 3 too low.

    Tesla definitely missing a trick here with their present range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    An i3-style "Bubble" car of some description would surely be a big hit. With all the Tesla trimmings, just presented in a nice city-focused package - would fly out the door I think.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭pah


    The Model Why



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