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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,323 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I was only asking some questions, as to the "Both-sidism" on display by some.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Yes the usual "I'm only asking questions" schtick. You've just proved my point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,323 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    France is a good example, they distanced themselves, condemned both sides, tried to act as mediator, and still got attacked

    Yeap, but some folks have TDS and BDS, so they cannot fathom that Iran is actually the bad guys here. The same group that murdered up to 36,000 protestors over the past few months.

    My position is, that given the conflict has started now, the US and the rest may as well finish the job, so hopefully the region can usher in a period of peace over the next few decades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,323 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Well you could have answered the questions I put forward. As in do you lump the likes of France, Oman Cyprus, the UK and Ukraine in with the "Both-sidism"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Oh ye like you answered the questions that were put to you yesterday and just ignored? As I said, disingenuous.

    Use your schtick with others, I've seen it far too many times to bother getting drawn into it with you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,323 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Reporter from the Economist

    It seems to me that there is a complete breakdown in command and control as to who is ordered to fire what at whom.
    Guys on the ground are just entering coordinates from a pre-designated spreadsheet, as it was feared that a strike from Israel/US would take out the leadership. It seems Iran was prepared for that BUT it also seems that they have the ability to direct or change previous orders or protocols now. Hence the scattergun tactics.


    Iran, making friends in the Middle East..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    Cyprus, Oman, Jordan, UK, France, Saudi Arabia (and Bahrain and Qatar and UAE) went out of their way to not take sides and refused use of their soil and skies for initial attacks by Israel and US

    Yet one side (Iran) chose to attack these previously neutral states and their people, hell they even attacked a Russian dark fleet taker killing Indian crew on board

    It’s a bit rich to go on about “both sides” when those who don’t want to be involved on a neutral third side endup being dragged in anyways, which should be of major concern to us living in a neutral and completely undefended country


    edit; another attack with a Shaheed on a neutral country that has a long history of mediating with Iran



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,323 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Russia talked about 'both sides' for a very long time.
    To them, we in Ireland are just as guilty as the US, UK, Poland and Germany…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Hopefully this war / sh1tshow will bring the end of both the Iranian regime and the Trump presidency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “There is or was a perception that the West was in decline and other powers like Russia, China and Iran were ready to step into the vacuum and pursue their own aims.”

    Even before he was crowned King of America, Trump was talking about WW3. It’s one thing to say that the west was in decline militarily- that could well be true. But instead of giving them a b0ll0cking, and giving them time to get their act together, Trump is pretty much laying the foundation for 3rd world war.
    This is by design and has been his intention since day 1- he’s not interested in peace- and he doesn’t give a sh1t if Russia “steps into the vacuum “- he’s more than prepared to do business with Russia



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭Enduro


    It would be ideal. (We could add Bibi as well, to really have a perfect day), but sadly the combination is unlikely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭engineerws


    Bahrain hosted the US Navy's Fifth Fleet headquarters in Manama. While requesting attacks not be taken from it's soverign territory it was aiding and abeting the US/ Israel war effort and that is surely why Iran attacked Manama and the US air base in the Sheikh Isa area.

    As I said previously, I find it bizare that such obvious things would need to be explained.

    Countries under attack generally don't like it when other countries host those invading armies. Not meaning to be rude but does that help explain the situation?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭JayBee66


    Seeing as Pro-Palestinians are high-jacking a thread about Iran…

    It always amuses me to see Irish people wishing away the existence of Israel and castigating it for gaining back territory initially taken from it by the Roman Empire (passed over time through the Byzantine, Arab and Ottoman Empires) to the British Empire who then lost it to its rightful owners.

    Simply renaming Israel by another name and making it a province of an empire doesn't make the original state go away.

    By that same logic, shouldn't Ireland be handed back to the British?

    Or is this another case of Keyboard Warriors stating "This is Different"?

    Even Arab scholars will tell you that there has never been a state called Palestine and they use the term Palestine simply to attack a country they'd rather not exist and to divide Israel's allies.

    And don't think for one moment that throwing Jews to the wolves will make islamic terror disappear overnight. After Israel, they want every European country their caliphates have touched.

    Islamic terror also imagines taking over the whole world. Even then the terror won't stop because all the different sects of islam hate each other and they'll start killing each other for supremacy, which they already do. That's why the sunni countries in the middle east would like the shiite Iranian regime to be rid of and why the Iranian regime wants control of mecca.

    Honestly, I think half of you must be Russian bots designed to foment division amongst us. You can't all be that incapable of reading a history book. Most of you don't go to church anymore so why the Roman diatribe and indoctrination?

    Anyway, it's all pissing in the wind. Bots and antis never listen.

    Mod Edit: Warned for personal abuse

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    The Epstein war isn't going to plan. Trump thought it wouid be wrapped up at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    Didn’t they ask US to leave and base was emptied

    You are one air defence failure away from serious loss of lives in any of these dozen countries in the Middle East being attacked from ending up on the wrong side of history and public opinion

    Here is a shaheed drone slamming into a civilian building in Bahrain from multiple angles {including few floors below impact}, no amount of Iranian spin can hide this attack on civilian housing nowhere near the empty base



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    We might have to start another thread down the line.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    He probably realised that he would be much more valuable as a martyr in terms of unifying his country against the invaders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Nope, it is not a bit strong.

    Official Israeli policy for decades up until 2022 called for a two-state solution. That is fact.

    It was Arafat who walked away from a two-state solution. Not blaming him, the Palestinian people were opposed to it and he couldn't deliver it. The deep-seated hatred of the Jews, never far from the surface in Hamas has always opposed a two-state solution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    About 9 months since this was posted and it's as true as ever. Sickening to hear people defend the indefensible because it's 'their' side doing it. The US/Israeli backers on this site don't give a single, shimmering shiny fcuk about Iran, or Iranian women, or even stability in the middle east. They're bending over backwards to justify an illegal, unwarranted attack on another sovereign nation. It's clear as day that the US are trying to retrofit reasons for the attack and their lies crumble at the first hurdle.

    Truth of the matter is, nobody's talking about the Epstein files or the atrocities in Gaza any more because fo this, and that was the plan from the get go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Mod Edit: Keep discussion to the topic and not other posters. Warning issued



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    Now that the regime has been destroyed, isn't it time Reza Pahalvi make his way to Tehran to be greeted by the liberated masses? 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    It might be time for the Irish government to reconsider the ban on offshore gas exploration. Europe needs to use all its own resources. We will need a secure supply of gas to balance the downtime on renewables.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,064 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Take your Zionist propaganda elsewhere. The "2 state solution" that was presented to Arafat would have left the Palestinians with no control over their external boarders and completely at the mercy of Israel.

    The simple truth is that the Zionists have been working towards their Greater Israel vison for decades. Anything said publicly is undermined by their actions.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,701 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    So I had a look at the text of both the Minsk and Budapest agreements a while back, since I have seen this claimed a few times…. And there is no such a thing in the text of either. The closest was a commitment to not violate sovereignty, there is nothing in the agreements about any military guarantees if anyone else violates sovereignty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Saudis could not make anything fighting Yemeni. Houthis gave them enough of kicks in the proverbial ar$e. They wont do much against Iran even if they wanted.

    Thing is that what you call Gulf states are mostly monarchies or outright dictatorships which only control local population because they pay them off. Iran actually turned that peculiar fragile balance upside down. Gulf states population is on the streets but despite your wishes they do not rile up against Iran but against their own governments pushing them to make Israel and USA end the conflict. Saudis had to rush in Bahrain today to save government from angry people who want to kick USA out of Bahrain so they wont be attacked again. While old sunni shia split might have been exploited to a point it would not work if it will be seen as fighting on behalf of Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    It seems the relative success of the first bombing of Iran lead to Trump believing all military action is easy. Leading to Venezuala and now back to Iran. I would definitly believe now that Trump has got rid of his "no more wars" shackles he would initiate more wars if this conflict goes well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    Germany planning massive evacuations from region now that neutral countries are being regularly attacked, nothing from ours

    https://www.euractiv.com/news/stranded-in-the-gulf-how-european-countries-are-scrambling-to-bring-citizens-home/

    Common eu plans not activated either yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,887 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Get yourself some solar panels so, or get involved in a Community solar or wind project https://communitypower.ie/

    Take back some control instead of complaining that corporations do the things we know corporations always do

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,209 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Methinks the penny is starting to drop. This Netanyahu/Trump war will impact your livelihood in many many ways.

    Even if Ireland opened up gas exploration licenses again, it would be 8-12 years before newly discovered gas was commercially available. 8 years of they found a viable field straight away.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,437 ✭✭✭brickster69


    State run Qatar energy announce a full stop in production of other things now, 34% of the worlds fertilizer exports pass through the strait of Hormuz.

    Going by Trumps "as long as it takes " comments markets seem to be pricing in a longer conflict than what some people first imagined

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



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