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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,602 ✭✭✭✭josip


    We know that and that there's a boatload due soon. They know that. But for some reason, Tesla still irks them. And preoccupies them. They spend more time thinking about Tesla than most owners do. It's impressive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    The cheaper bargain basement model and 0 percent finance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Jesus you lads are real aggravated. I only know owners that have picked up their 261 models already. So assumed the stats were accurate for others places in Q4.

    Not good numbers but reflective of international drops of 45 percent in sales globally in most countries (nothing to do with quarterly deliveries or whatever)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,123 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    thats not a massive cut its a lower spec model, which every brand has? and 0 percent finance that's fake news, its 1 percent and its not like that's uncommon in the industry!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,123 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    I dont think anyone is aggravated, but its a bit of a pointless post, look at the annual figures sure, but this is about as relevant as the fact it was the best selling car brand (not ev) in December.

    What is the origin of the international drop of 45% globally?? 2025 v 2024 was a 8.6% decrease in sales volumes i believe.

    I'd like to think you are a better class of poster than the usual WUMs to like to frequent this thread.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,123 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Anyway lots of strong sales being reported around Europe if car brand sales light your fire, surprised we werent getting a market by market update from Mad_Lad or whatever he calls himself now

    https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/teslas-european-sales-show-signs-of-recovery-in-february/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    There is some interesting supply issues going on in Canada right now with model 3 being reportedly shipped south of the border to be replaced with Chinese stock. The Brandenburg plant can't assume the European market belongs to it.

    I am holding on with regard to February sales reports to see a pattern but at the moment the factory looks like it is stuck below 40% occupancy.

    Finally Cyrus get it through your thick head that I am not mad lad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Well I don't think Simi looking at registrations as being the indicator of sales is a bad metric to be honest. It seems Tesla is the only brand that should be made an exception for every year ??

    That's a tad ridiculous frankly. They've fallen out of the top ten in the ev category. That's significant enough given they solely sell EVs. And arguably are the definition of synonyms with EVs as an entity.

    I dislike the yearly batting away of registration figures frankly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,123 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,123 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    As I said taking anything in isolation is ridiculous. They were the best selling car in Ireland in December.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    And the Model Y was the best selling car (not EV) worldwide for the last 3 years. That's some going. Be a while before a Chinese company can say that.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Not sure if I am reading the figures correctly for the month of February, using filters looks like Model Y was the second best EV sales with 152 units and Model 3 a long way down the list with 6.

    Would be as expected with only a shipment of Y arriving here, the rest being left over reallocated 2025 cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cunnifferous




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Just checked ChatGPT and did a Google search and it depends who you ask it seems and the figures over 2025 are not there yet. It looks like the RAV4 might have got slightly ahead in 2024 but it was very close. Total sales over the 3 years looks like Model Y wins

    Goes to show though that Toyota had the best selling car in the world for decades on end, and newcomer Tesla has successfully challenged that

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,500 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Is it annoying that nobody is talking about Fisher Price brands like BYD, is that the aggravation?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,031 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    It's almost as if the CEO taking a step back from politics has helped sales of the car brand… Who'd a thunk it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,123 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    maybe maybe not, im not sure how impactful all that is apart from a handful of internet virtue signallers bleating about nazis as they merrily drive around in VWs 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Lol, I'm so attached to me car choice of 2025 that I take it as a personal slight to my entire being.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    If you don't think Elon is personally responsible for the dent in the brand and the global drop in Tesla sales in comparison to other EV brands which sales are growing. Then I don't know what to say to you.

    You're not plugged into details ??

    The man is the ruin of the company over the last 5 years his failed cybertruck little project probably being were the fall started.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,500 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    You seem however to be so attached to Tesla commentary you accumulate most of your posts on Boards in this very thread.

    For a non-Tesla owner it's really rather odd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Most of my posts on boards have nothing to do with Tesla brand.

    I do however pop in as it's one for my various flagged forum interests.

    Are you the forum police ? Should I change my interests because of you ?

    That's fairly ridiculous, perhaps I can tell you which forums you can post to ? Which ones should I exclude you from fire across your interests there so I can compile does and donts.

    Oh btw, slagging a car brand doesn't phase me. Id change from BYD tomorrow if something else took a fancy. Also it's my wives not mine which I've explained a million times. I run motorcycles and a van.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,123 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Or maybe its all the other ev brands that didnt exist before…. Tesla was never going to grow into perpetuity, EVs arent new any more everyone is doing it, there is competition, above, below and alongside, and clearly they dont see their future in slugging it out in that sphere.

    Is her right, no idea. But he has been more financially successful that almost everyone else in the world so he may not be a complete idiot about everything?!?

    Besides i couldnt give a toss, my Juniper is a great car, its unlikely ill buy another Tesla as the X and S dont exist any more and ill likely try something else in a year or two (and the 3 wont work for space reasons). You spend more time fretting about how Tesla are getting on that most.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I disagree. I truly think the brand is awesome. And I do think they could have grown into perpetuity. They have had absymal leadership. Ridiculous direction of funds into pet projects, cost cutting efforts at the cost of user touch and feel, money fundled out into other companies including staff and resources. A whole AI or robot division born from staff that should be concentrating on the car brand.

    It's such a shame and it's not too late. But they have to eject Elon and his board. And that seems unlikely. The brand may be buried by his other current interests and I find that quite sad. Id like to see it reasert itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,031 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    You're kidding yourself if you don't think that had an impact on sales though. I predict sales to increase further and for financials at his other companies like Grok, and maybe even Twitter, to stabilise now that he's taken a step back, presuming that he keeps back, of course.

    Yeah that's definitely a valid point. When I bought my Model 3 in 2023 for just over 40k there wasn't many other EVs out there that gave me a car of that size for that price. Today there's a lot of similar cars out there and the BYD seal is practically its main competitor

    The space for the X and S are being filled by Merc and BMW so you are getting more options at least



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,762 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    "A whole AI or robot division born from staff that should be concentrating on the car brand"

    That is fundamentally where you and Musk differ. You see Tesla as a car company, he sees it as an AI / robotics company. His vision has been proven to be the right one many times before, that is why he is by far the richest man this planet has ever seen. If I were a betting man, I would follow him. Not you 😁

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,123 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    id disagree with you on the cost cutting at the cost of touch and feel, the current interiors match up with anything outside of the properly nice stuff in terms of quality (helped with the likes of Audi and BMW racing to the bottom) and its precisely those efficiencies that have enabled them to make the prices so competitive.

    But that said i do lament to loss of the more premium S and X, but its not the direction tesla are going in it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I don't have to differ and you've proven my point as to why people shouldn't buy the cars until this soul searching of the company is bottomed out.

    As always you claim to not support the man on every thread your in. And here we are glorifying him as a deity. Applause.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,884 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    They took the indicator stalk off to simplify and cost could manufacture. It created a cottage industry of stick on stalks.

    🤷‍♂️



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