US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

A reminder that cutting a quick deal with Trump is also in the benefit of the remaining regime - domestic chaos doesn't suit them either

Their number one goal is to stay in power and save their skins. They are much more scared of domestic reprisals than the US/Israel, I wouldn't be surprised to see the external rockets/drones turn down to a trickle while they organise themselves to brutally put down any attempt by opposition to take control

Yes it could all turn into Syria but my money is on the regime saving itself and the Iranians being ruled by the same brutal regime, just a compliant US/Israel one.

There is no concerted opposition in Iran.

If the Americans or Israelis are not willing to put boots on the ground, the bombardment will slow down once the missiles and drones start to deplete.

That won't be enough time to orchestrate a civil war in Iran before that happens.

Best case scenario will be a cease fire and peace talks, but neither side are really in a position to either demand or concede, not without any real meaning going forward anyway.

I imagine we will end up with a far more secretive, sophisticated leadership structure in Iran more determined than ever for nuclear armament.

But Hey, Trump got to order missile attacks whilst wearing a hat at his golf course and that's all that matters to him.

There was no way it could end well even before it began.

Its just a question of how bad now.

Civil war in Iran? Probably.

Iranian blockade of the Straits? Probably.

Full-on 1970s redux oil crisis with $200 or $300 per barrel oil? Probably.

Rampant inflation and scarcity in the west? Probably.

Flight of people and capital from the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman and the rest? Probably.

Huge refugee crisis in the wider Middle East? Probably.

Losses of US men and material mounting up? Probably.

Dangerous constitutional crisis in America? Probably.

Dangerous political crisis in Israel? Probably.

Violent protests everywhere concerning the above? Probably.

Terrorist attacks by Iranian sleepers anywhere and everywhere in the west? Probably.

P1ss taking by Russia and China while everyone is tied up with this crap? Probably.

Kuwait had been reported yesterday as shooting down 97 missiles and 283 drones. They'd have been working flat out, under a lot of stress, probably long shifts. People get tired and make mistakes. There's always a percentage of friendly fire incidents in any conflict.

I saw a photo of one of the pilots who ejected and the lads hand was absolutely mangled. Either hit by shrapnel from the missile or caught on something during ejection. Better than being dead though.

"Russia wouldnt have attacked if Ukraine just gave them what they wanted and NATO disbanded…"

Not sure what Cyprus and the EU have to do with the war in Iran though, but you seem to be OK with another EU member state being attacked.

Who exactly is cheering them on?

Nothing more annyoying then people catastrophising anything and everything.
Like the state of that list. $300 oil? Protests in where, Dubai? Kuwait?
FFS, you know nothing

The fact that Americans elected Trump shows how stupid a country can become. The fact that Trump started a war or two or several, no surprise at all. How could any country come to agreement with a regime led by a clown and ministered by his disciples. The fact that the rest of the western world has tempered him by agreeing with his virtual every utterance and action shows signs of how weak most of the world has become. If anyone thinks ridding us of the Iranian regime will resolve any of most of the world's problems, they would be badly mistaken imo. If this was a Russian action taking place, the world would be up in arms over it.

Thats not giving any justification to Russian actions, just comparing if it were a like for like situation.

I am shocked by the support that Iran has got across these threads.

They killed 33,000 of their own people in the last few months, they have attacked Dubai, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Cyprus, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia and Israel in the last couple of days, uniting the region against them, yet there are posters cheering them on, hoping they win!

For some weird reason people who dislike the US and Israel (which is fair enough) seem to think this automatically means they have to side with their enemies. It's very weird behaviour. You can hate those 2 and also hate Iran's leadership.

The Iran regime doesn’t have much support ffs.

Neither does continued bombing of Iran, with no actual plan by the looks of it.

You can hold both these opinions.

Do you have any details on the three incidents? All western media is saying is that they either "crashed" or it was "apparent friendly fire". Any details on the time gap between the three planes being shot down? Was it multiple anti-aircraft stations that shot them down or one team? Are the aircraft not able to evade both hostile and friendly fire? The pilots must be 100% on alert all of the time - they were hardly on their facebook accounts!

I am inclined towards saying it was deliberately done by Kuwaitis hostile to the Israel / US invasion. That would not be admitted by the US or Kuwait because it could spread quickly.

So in the absence of hard verified facts, you want to go down the road of that its an inside job, because that is what your gut tells you. Fascinating stuff.