Bord Bia Problem

IFA started on one thing with no followup plan and I think BB and minster see that, hence its easy to stand firm. What are they going to do they ask themselves. …. Some lad stood up and said wants weather rises, farmers wont have time for protest as ground will dry and needs to be worked.

. Yes its unfair that LM is buying brazil beef and ye do all the hard work, but whether IFA like it or not they let that complaint and slight variations of it be the one and only thing and now thats transformed into devaluing BB .. for what gain?. Have they equal eyes on what trends are appearing in EU supermarjkets - much more stringent sourcing and eco schemes.. Nitrates derogation, shipping calves may make huge farming sense but to secure top prices and good shelf spacoing for 90% of our exprorts - standards are getting higher.

Very insitfhul there that maybe teh BB marks are plan buy the processors to get higher prices but not pass them onto farmers.. That might be something but its more likely It allows a buyer in NL or DE say to their boss - you know this irish beef is super, great supply chain excellen quality and proce … and it already as a Qmark we can put on our shelf that customers want.

Jumbo supermarket chain in NL is swithcing to hyper local and phasing out irish beef. Standards dont stand still and marketrs dont either.

IFA have a valid protest but on the whole schem of things, they are letting other serious stuff go on with no input as they are holed up in reception with a banana with BB staff work from home or other meeting rooms.

the accountancy/legal/doctors/nurses/engineers/trades in ireland……all self regulate their respective industries/professions themselves and provide the standard…..why are farmers allowing the standard be set by others? 2 positions on the board is insulting

if were commodity producers the cheapest international competitor sets the standard

leave larry, if he was a leader he'd have stepped back, hes caused some pr damage to the standard, skirting ethics but complying with all applicable laws, ill never eat in subway again knowing their contingency policies for supplies which is one plus out of this all

id hope to see the farm org pull away from bord bia all together

Is there a petition to have LM removed and can someone post a link please if there is ?

it’s disgusting , I believe it will be the end of Heydon’s ministry and a shame as he made improvements in other areas.

He's tone deaf is all im seeing from it, 99% of farmers know the new cap will be basically beer money, for any half intensive farm that dosent want to rewild the place, theirs a level of arrogance/ignorance from the political class and elites that manners will be put on the ifa and farmers...

In fairness unless francie has the balls to block up dublin, he isnt going to get anywhere

The model farmer that needs protecting as far as the IFA is concerned is the 1000 acre grain grower who buys continental weanlings for finishing on their own farm output.

The polar opposite of that is the small dairy farmer doing 13km's a day of work selling their calves and buying meal whilst the other is using their time scheming about how they'll buy more land and create a monopoly amongst themselves, while telling everyone they've no money.

Heard of a small dairy farmer trying to get going on a farmer representation union. His parents were working till 4pm just doing the morning's work. And they trying to get into the union giving that day. That's not feasible. No wonder small dairy farmers have no representation in unions.

Anyone in business sometimes lets an opportunity go, it just might not have been worth the grief. LM should have applied that judgement in this case. Having said that FOG has walked stupidly into a corner. Where was he a few years ago when the price of Irish beef was on the floor?

the tax free leasing was brought to fruition by Macra, not IFA. It has been both good and bad but mostly good imo.
We were once small dairy and beef farmers never had any helping hand to get to what we have now, stop the moaning please.
Larry Murrin needs to go. He can’t be head of an organisation telling Irish farmers how to produce our product while importing produce from another country with zero regulations

Murrin is doing so legally. Within agreed eu limits.

The campaign is not about the legality is about perceived ethics.

Ethically you are against Murrin promoting Irish produce which had a great name built. But you yourself are in the bord bia scheme and a great believer in palm kernel and soya. If he is removed by these ethics, you yourself won't be permitted to use the palm kernel and soya by these same ethics.

It's as simple as that.

No looking to curry favour through politics at this juncture by going with those ethics is going to change that outcome. We are at a juncture in time.

Loyalty will be used against you in this instance.

Protest stood down according to agriland

very fair points say but we don’t produce enough grain in the country to support its live stock. It is a bit different, he could source that produce from countries bettee tracebility and record keeping

Maybe we should be only using grain from countries with similar standards to ours. I used pke last summer to save silage, was a last resort. If I had the silage I wouldn’t be using it but I accept your point