Slowing down to overtake.

If you allow people who haven't passed their test on the motorway to practise your actually putting less skilled people on the motorway.

If you're suggesting expanding post test training R plates etc you'd have to justify it with stats. But the stats contradict your assertion that's it's a lack of training causing accidents.

It's deliberate and wilful bad driving.

Since getting cruise control I have noticed this more and on the one hand thought it was just people being pig ignorant but perhaps not. The crusie control on the car is subtely increaseing and decreasing the acceleration as the road topograhy changes and air resitance changes due to wind direction and strengt. A car in cruise control will be constantly be changing power. While someone in a car without cruise control or not using it may well have a driver less worried about maintianing a constant velocity and just away in thier own world. In addition when you overtake you move into a zone on increased air resitance, meaning if you dont increase power you will slow down. If the initial speed differential was small it could be noticable at motorway speeds.

I used to be very aware on the leapfrog effect when I first stated using cruise control. On a motorway, set to 120kph, overtake someone, a couple of km later they pass you before you pass them after another couple. You are travelling at a constant 120 while they are probably oscillating between 115 and 125. If one of these is passing on the motorway and not paying due attention to their veolicity they may actually slow down unintentionally and appear to be an asshole while they are infact probably more concentrated on the podcast they are listening to or whatever issue is running through their mind, than maintaining a constant speed.

Those who speed up when you go to overtake them are all pricks though.

Problem with motorway drivers is they have a one track mind...

No I'm saying it's a flawed correlation.

It's a slight against statistics.

I was behind a car pootling along at about 65 on a 100 road. Once I got a good spot to pass I indicate and start to pull out round them, at that exact moment they floor it and get up to 100 now pacing me alongside!

WTF? This wasn't a young boy racer it was a quite elderly woman with young child, probably grandchild, in the car.

The child was probably egging her on. Grandparents will do anything for their grandkids😀

I agree the current system were you get your license first seems to be better.

Motorways are the safest road statistically anyway.

Regularly come across lads overtaking at approx same speed as car being overtaken and taking an age which is unnecessary and frustrating at times.

However, a car travelling at say 120kph on either left or right lane and slowing down to say 100kph on the point of overtaking and accelerating up to 120kph once past is not something I see on motorways. I’m still of the view that a likely cause relates ro people slavishly using ACC and waiting for the ACC to sluggishly accelerate up to speed after pulling out to overtake a slower car. This would be a regular problem in my car on a busy motorway if I didnt intervene and manually accelerate upon pulling into the right lane.

The way things are going these issues won’t be resolved until we eventually move to fully autonomous cars. The irony is that increased driver aids are dumbing down driving skills as drivers become increasingly dependent on the car to do the driving for them

They are probably cyclists when not in a car!

If you think ACC is that glacially slow you need a better car.

Putting even slower learner drivers on the motorway to tackle slow overtaking makes no sense.

Arguing for more training and longer licence on a licensing system almost on its knees is never going to happen to improve driving on motorways which statistically are the safest in Ireland and among the safest in Europe.

All evidence is that it's an enforcement issue not a training issue.