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Will AI take your job?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    The idea of making clothes by hand … would be absurd to us today

    A good example, even if you didn't mean it to be so, of some of the hysterical scaremongering we're seeing around AI. Clothes today are still made by hand - all of them. Not just your haute-couture Armani suit, but every one-wash t-shirt and cheap pair of jeans that you might find in Penneys, and everything in between. No amount of technological development over the last 300 years has taken the human out of clothes-making, and the sector is still one of the biggest employers worldwide.

    Equally, it's good example of how AI risks eating it's own. The online fashion space is now heavily contaminated with AI generated images of various items of clothing offered for sale, many of which are simply impossible to recreate in real life and most of which are (like excessively filtered profile photos) a great disappointment when they turn up in real life. This doesn't mean that pattern drafting software which includes AI can't be a great help to a designer, but it means the online retail space is swamped with AI fakery, which will push consumers to find real-world, real-people businesses instead.

    The foundation for this reaction is already well laid in western Continental Europe, with a significant rejection of excessive corporate digitalisation of our personal lives. It won't spell the end of the "AI revolution" by any means - but it'll be an important brake on rampant unregulated development, and a reservoir of knowledge for anyone living in countries that have sold their souls to "les GAFA" as the French call them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    I take your point, but all work that is automated has humans involved at some point. I mentioned clothes because the mechanical loom was one of the most disruptive inventions of the industrial revolution. It was even a partial cause of the Great Famine in Ireland. It's hard to argue against it being a net benefit over the centuries regardless, especially as you say the massive employment that is still involved.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭MadeInKerry


    Yes but it takes less people using machines than people using machines to do any job.

    The JCB does the work it takes 10 men a week to do in a couple of hours with one man and a JCB.

    So unless you are the JCB driver, the owner of the building company or the buyer of the hole its digging you are on the wrong end of that equation. But most people who are made redundant by machines, find other types of work. Work evolves, same as technology evolves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Grim reading - but recommended reading too- we’re only 2 years from 2028

    Citrini’s scenario ends with a caution: “This is the first time in history the most productive asset in the economy has produced fewer, not more, jobs. Nobody’s framework fits, because none were designed for a world where the scarce input became abundant. So we have to make new frameworks. Whether we build them in time is the only question that matters.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/24/feedback-loop-no-brake-how-ai-doomsday-report-rattled-markets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    Meta's Director of AI Safety allows AI Agent to accidentally delete her inbox

    This is what she asked the agent to do. She had been testing the functionality with various "toy" inboxes but then …

    Screenshot 2026-02-25 at 11.42.41.png

    Kudos to her for being so open about it. Dare I say it, many men in the same role would have concocted some way to blame something or someone else for it due to perceived embarrassment.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    The markets overreacted and shows that the investments were made by people who don’t understand what they are investing in

    Some of the companies mentioned will just use the exact same tools (which unlike standalone developers they can afford) to build up their moats higher

    Aside: typing this as I’m waiting for Claude to do its thing 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭80sDiesel


    The cost of intelligence (A1) is going to near zero so anyone with the domain knowledge will be able to create what they(SAS) currently offer.( Obviously will be a small company with some capital backing)

    SAS businesses can build a bigger moat but no-one is going to pay the toll to cross the bridge.

    Post edited by 80sDiesel on

    A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    Putting aside that newer models are ever more expensive despite being ultra heavily subsidised at this time

    Models take a lot of capital and energy to train and inference is not free either (and requires gobs of expensive memory and storage) and electricity. Top four tech companies are about to spend 600bn this year alone on datacenters and GPUs, money that their shareholders sure as hell will want recouped somehow

    Saying that costs of AI will go to zero is very simplistic, they not even trending in that direction at this time!

    Businesses pay for software so they can concentrate on their core business whatever it is, just because it’s now easier to write and test software (but not cheaper) doesn’t mean I will spend my day creating a clone of: okta, workday, stripe, zoom, slack, jenkins, artifactory, snyk, figma, workday, sap, salesforce, oracle, any of the gazillions of aws or Microsoft or Google cloud services and so on and forth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,941 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    If you haven't come across this article yet its worth a read, it spooked the financial markets yesterday which says something for how many people are taking it seriously.

    One of the big takeaways that honestly scares me a bit is the idea that new technology always leads to new different jobs to replace the ones it took. This article argues that's because the new jobs need intelligence to do but AI is/will be increasingly intelligent and will be able to do them too and better and cheaper than any human as well. Sobering to think about, article describes this point and many more better than i could.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Near zero. This is the opposite of Zimbabwe money.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I posted the guardian article about that above - again a good read and yes equally depressing 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭80sDiesel


    Probably could have my post clearer.

    The cost of intelligence , once tied to human expertise , is now approaching zero through AI.

    A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    You’re not totally wrong in some respects- and if you want to produce “stuff” without oversight and governance, such as we see on social media- then yes, totally agree.

    But if you want bespoke, correctness, tailored- it will still take human intervention to make that so. The tools are incredible there’s no doubt- but humans aren’t totally redundant - but we do have to catch up, and decide just what a huge range of businesses are prepared to accept, as “acceptable”.

    I wouldn’t be throwing degrees and qualifications in the bin just yet- for starters, “compliance” is not a friend of AI- that’s a good thing because it means humans will continue to be required.
    Marketing? AI can “enhance”- or get you to a very cheap but good first draft MVP- - but again, if you want your marketing to do what’s expected of it, you will require human intervention.

    There’s no doubt A LOT of jobs will be lost - but there will also be a new framework and ways of working in place in time - it’s “worrying” - but I’m hoping it won’t be doomsday - I’m in learning mode and getting used to a range of tools - some incredible technology out there- but businesses need to engage too and decide what works for them - I think that’s where the proof will be- currently social media is awash with propaganda about AI, promoting the tools whilst also preaching doom - that’s merely a marketing tool to encourage uptake which means profit - let’s see and in the meantime keep a cool head



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    yeh your article has the link to above interesting read

    “By March 2027, the median individual in the United States was consuming 400,000 tokens per day ”

    That’s about 15$ a day (I just checked Claude pricing which is heavily subsidised by anthrophic whom are bleeding money) per each man woman and child in US

    Is an expectation that AI companies like Google, OpenAI, meta, Amazon and anthropic will earn 1.9 trillion a year from US population alone in 1 year from now whom are expected to spend just under 700bn this year alone

    That’s a big IF

    If that was the case then why are all of the above (whom own chunks of each other) except for Google are down massively, Amazon alone recently lost 450bn in value, Microsoft not far behind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    If you look at Tik tok for example, it’s awash - wall to wall - with AI promotion - I don’t believe in conspiracy theories normally- but there’s no doubt, there’s a serious effort from AI affiliates and interested parties let’s say, to ensure AI explodes into action - a counterbalance force needs to develop organically in my view to this organised onslaught - and I believe it will



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    chunk of that article went on about crypto finally after 15 years finally becoming useful and widely used in a year, yeh…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    CTO currently telling us that Claude can now maintain Cobol. So, yes, it seems like it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭techman1


    The one thing that will slow it imo, is in domains where expertise is not readily accessible for training. An example given earlier was law. AI will (and probably already has) suck up public databases of legal judgements and may make a good fist of predicting future ones, but the advice a lawyer gives on how to resolve a legal problem, whether to take a case or not, is not typically in the public domain.

    But could law firms not run AI in their private data bases to stream line their business. Maybe they will restrict how much data is shared on public data bases in order to protect their own profession. We all know the legal system are masters at self preservation and preventing technology from reforming and stream lining their work especially in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Yeah there's a clear bias for adoption. I think that's what gives me greatest pause, everyone is incentivised to drink the ai cool aid and indeed anyone negative will be pushed to the side regardless of merit. So we will all go along with it and whether it is successful or not, it must be declared a success. I wonder will we end up with so many agents producing so much output that it will be beyond our capability to even digest or understand our own workflows. Just because I can build something doesn't mean I should



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    It's a bit like the early days of off-shoring back in the 90s, which I was involved in. The company I worked for set up a development centre in Sri Lanka. And the guys there wrote beautiful code, it just didn't do what it was supposed to because despite being well-qualified programmers they had no knowledge of what the systems they were writing for actually did.

    I was supposed to go out to be involved in managing the dev centre, but the day I was to decide whether I wanted to go or not there was a massive car bomb in Colombo so I gave it a body swerve.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,563 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i guess the (purported) benefits of automation have always been to free humans up to concentrate on work that at that point in time, still could not be automated. that at various points in history when we had leaps forward - like the invention of the loom - there was another industry needing, or able to absorb, all the labour or time freed up by the new techology.

    but the thing is, that's not an immutable law of innovation. what industries are crying out for manpower in ireland? one obvious answer is the construction industry; though the career path from coder to brickie might not be what some people had envisaged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    I think the offshoring/outsourcing analogy is a good one. Even if AI turns out to be super smart and intelligent, it doesn't necessarily have the expertise for the job. Though in some cases it will. In general though, you can make a case that AI will have exactly the same issues/problems that outsourcing has.

    Take an example of previous mechanisation. When the Ulster linen industry was mechanised that destroyed the only cash income to many households in rural Ireland, which couldn't have happened at a worse time, just before the potato crop failed in 1845. There are many replacement jobs now, but there were none at that time.

    These two points probably seem contradictory, but I suppose the thing is anyone making absolute predictions, whether the AI boosters, or the doom sayers, are probably both wrong. We just don't know what the impact will be.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    I'm not that familiar with how law firms operate, but I assume legal advice is not something that gets stuck in a database to be re-used willy nilly. Client confidentiality rules are fairly critical I would think. I'm sure aspects of the business can benefit from AI. I wouldn't see a huge threat to fully qualified lawyers (solicitors and barristers) yet, but maybe a bit to para-legals, but again you have to ask yourself how much of the expertise in anyone's job is actually written down somewhere such that it can be fed into training AI as opposed to only existing in your head?

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    It’s the 2026 version of pointy haired boss syndrome

    Just nod, smile and agree 🤓



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,563 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq570d12y9do

    "The layoffs will mean headcount at the company - which owns Square, CashApp and Tidal - will fall to less than 6,000 from 10,000."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,214 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    The CEO class is committing the dumbest form of central planning since at least North Korea's "arduous march" in the 90s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭CatLick


    It's anecdotal but my friends accounts of MNC life run from being overworked to being overstaffed. I suspect the latter applies to some of our resident MNCs and AI is a convenient scapegoat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭bored65


    IMG_6616.jpeg

    interesting results from US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭amacca


    Something of an aside ...but…Why would you turn that into an opportunity to criticise men ffs

    It could well be what you say ..but in all fairness Who truly knows exactly what motivation that lady has beyond being open for revealing the info

    Maybe its not refreshing honesty/openess maybe she made a rash judgement in the heat of the moment...maybe she has qualms....maybe shes angling for something

    I've seen plenty of women concoct ways of blaming something or someone else for things in my time.....I hardly think men have the monopoly on that as a behavioural trait..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    I’ve worked in that business (as a man) for the last 30 years. It’s just my experience that it’s very unusual for men in leadership positions to admit to making mistakes like that. To see a woman do it, seems noteworthy to me. Nothing more than that. Maybe she has ulterior motives but that’s how it came across to me.

    If there was an ulterior motive, I think it raises an interesting question. Is there a gender aspect to attitudes towards AI? Maybe there is. Maybe men are more in favour of it due to the wow factor of how impressive the technology is, and maybe women are more sceptical, due to the potentially negative social effects?

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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