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Winter Olympics Coverage

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭csirl


    +1 on this. Given that they had already paid for the rights, this is cheap TV that would attract more viewers than their normal tired schedule.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,194 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    The problem is RTE won’t allow themselves to do anything “cheap” on the main two stations.

    Compare World Athletics coverage on Virgin and RTE over the past few years. Virgin used the world feed with no studio, one reporter on site

    RTE had their own commentators, David Gillick on site, full studio coverage

    I was fine with Virgin, but RTE clearly LOVE studio pundits. They would not (IMO) allow themselves to just show the footage with world feed commentators.

    You can argue whether that’s the right decision or not but there’s no way it would be cheap if RTE showed this. I think they know too that anybody who’s interested already has access to it so it’s not going to be a huge success for them either way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,678 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    If they did show it or even do it cheap there would be as many posts on Boards complaining that they are wasting money showing loads of "stupid winter sports no one cares about. Why don't they show more GAA or rugby like gods gift to broadcasting TG4"

    Or

    "Look at the state of that coverage. BBC have people on the ground and a studio. Typical Ireland cand do anything right"

    RTE just can't win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭csirl


    Sounds like a typical jobs for the boys/girls in Montrose scenario. Most people would be happy enough with the world feed. In fact the world feed experts are normally more knowledgeable than those in RTE - a retired medalist is usually better than some RTE sports journalist.

    Given that TNT has the majority of the live coverage, I think a lot of people dont have access and would appreciate seeing the world feed. BBC coverage isnt great and concentrates on British athletes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    Even relegating the Irish athletes to the RTÉ Player is a poor move. They at least should have shown them on the news channel.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    I've really enjoyed the big air and half pipe events, the enthusiasm of the BBC commentators is great even if I don't have a clue what a 1080 left side triple (sic) is. It makes a change from the poo faced over analysing of mainstream sports.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,138 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Then why pay for 100 hours at all?

    Do they "win" by instead scheduling repeats on RTE2 of:

    Horrible Histories, Total Football, Home Sweet Rome, The Big Pet Project, Young Sheldon, The Goldbergs, Big Bang Theory, Your Home Made Perfect

    There's more repeats in that schedule, from today, these are the ones that might even be on re-repeat.

    Seems entirely reasonable to expect a public service broadcaster who has 100 hours of coverage to try and do something engaging with it. They clearly had scope in that schedule to slot in some coverage.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,678 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I agree with you not the people I fake quoted so there is no need to spell it out for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,138 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Fair enough, I direct my remarks to the general audience then :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,138 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I suppose I should say that the nature of events at the Winter Olympics does complicate scheduling for broadcasters.
    A lot of the main events are drawn out \ interval events where you have competitors going in sequence, or take considerable time to play out eg curling, ice hockey.
    Compared to eg Summer Olympics where you have a lot of prestige events that play out relatively quickly, races, rowing etc

    Even the BBC with all their hours of coverage don't get this right for their broadcast coverage.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,194 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Not to defend RTE, but it isn’t RTE journalists. They bring in outside “experts” for all their sports. I’d guess in this case it’d be former Irish Olympians. Not a “job for the boys” scenario

    Breezy has it spot on above. A few posters on here simply aren’t an indicator of any audience for these sports. And I say that as someone who watches this more than most. Saying “a lot of people” don’t have access but would watch it on RTE is, IMO, not true at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭csirl


    One of their channels was showing repeats of Nationwide when tne most prestigeous event in the entite games was on - and there was an Irish competitor (the Downhill). People may not follow these sports regularly, but, like the summer olympics, many sports fans do tune in when the bigger events are on. Even for the casual viewer, the downhill with Irish interest, for example, is way more attractive than repeats of Nationwide.

    There"s also the public broadcasting remit. Giving viewers a wider array of progtammes including those attracting a niche or occasional audience. Where's the additiinality with repeats of Nationwide readily availble on the player anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It would be better than doing nothing. RTÉ2 had a 3.6% share of the audience in January. We'd just have to post in fairness to RTÉ …. they did broadcast it … there was a time when…

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    I doubt the Winter Olympics would even hold up that 3.6% share. It's extremely niche in a country like Ireland where we don't have ice and snow sports facilities and are therefore effectively (excuse the pun) frozen out of it. Is there even a dedicated thread anywhere on boards to the games?

    The only Winter Olympic related story I've seen get any kind of wider traction is the two lads arguing with each other at the curling over whether one of them touched a curling stone. And most of the coverage of that has only been relating to what a weird sport curling is for people who were previously unaware of it.

    Realistically, almost nobody cares, and the few that do will go and find the coverage they need elsewhere. The same as they would with basketball or cricket or other niche sporting events.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭AJB39


    The Winter Olympics is promoted to RTÉ 2 at 6.25pm this evening as Ben Lynch becomes Ireland's first ever Winter Olympics Skiing finalist in the Freestyle Skiing Half-Pipe Final.

    Post edited by AJB39 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭Condor24


    Great final. One of those sports you'll watch once in four years then forget about it till next Olympics but it's obviously a vibrant discipline. Lynch doing brilliant to finish eighth. It's a dangerous sport! Witness Goeppers fall and the NZ guy earlier. That isn't so much snow as hard ice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,138 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Am thankful we had an Irish competitor in the men's 50 kms cross country race, so could see full uninterrupted coverage on the RTE player. No technical glitches with the player. World feed commentary. The broadcast continued until all athletes had crossed the finish line.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,138 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Interesting snippet on BBC site about ratings:

    The BBC audience for the GB men's curling semi-final win over Switzerland peaked at 3.4million.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    RTE could easily have shown the closing ceremony on RTE2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    If this is the case then why buy it? RTÉ2 is devoid of any programming, and has been for the last decade.

    If even the highlights show was to attain 30k that would be better than most programmes on RTÉ2.

    And I thought RTÉ2 was a public service broadcaster.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,194 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    RTE didn’t specifically purchase the rights individually. As part of the EBU agreement to allow them sub-licence the summer games from Warners Bros, the winter games is included

    RTE’s announcement at the time of the agreement stated it would show 100 hours of Winter Olympics FTA (over both winter games in the package 2026,2030) but they’re way off that for now

    So to answer the question “why did they do a deal for the winter games”, it’s because they couldn’t show the summer games without it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So its a good deal, why limit what you've been given?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,194 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Because they feel its not worth the effort. You can disagree with this, but I don’t think RTE have done anything wrong here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,973 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I enjoyed the highlights.

    Ski Sunday used to be popular in our house. I assume it was for others too. Been years since I watched it. Cut the cable etc..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So RTÉ2 has no home produced programming outside sport.

    They have the rights to the Winter Olympic Games that would fit with their current schedule.

    Most of their programming is getting less than 30K each day. I am not asking for full coverage but sure the highlights packages could have aired a 7pm each night?

    But you think they are right with the current schedule they have on RTÉ2? And of course I have to bring up do you really think they know what they are doing in RTÉ?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭AJB39


    They have “First Dates” but I can’t think of any other original home produced programming RTE2 currently broadcasts outside of sport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    You need to accept that, just because you want to watch something, it doesn't mean that many other people do.

    I would consider myself a Summer Olympics fan - to the extent that I pay a lot of attention from a couple of years out in terms of who's going to qualify for Ireland, how big will the team be, who are our biggest hopes etc. So, if someone who is as interested in the Summer Olympics as I am can't get myself even remotely into the winter games, that probably suggests that most average sports followers are likely to have no interest at all in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I don't want to watch, I don't watch sport. RTÉ are a public service broadcaster.

    Summer Olympics held up RTÉ2 audience last year, along with the Euros, with their 3.6% share in Jan how do they defend their line up of programming outside of sport?

    I suppose they are right just look at their line up this week at 7pm

    Monday - From That Small Island (Originally RTÉ1 2025, Repeat)

    Tuesday - Your Home Made Perfect (Import, Repeat)

    Wednesday - The Simpsons (Import, Repeat) leading into Champions League

    Thursday - Bake Off: The Professionals (Import, Available on Channel4.com, Season 5)

    Friday - Son of a Critch (Import, Repeat), followed by Rick Stein's Food Stories (Import, Repeat)

    Saturday @ 6 The Shelter (Import, Repeat), followed at 7 by The Saturday Game Live.

    Sunday - The Future of Nature (Import, Repeat)

    This is a crazy line up of Repeats at 7pm only Saturday would you have to moved the highlights show to 6pm, why is RTÉ importing Bake Off, from 4 years ago which is available on channel4.com.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,194 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    I’m not defending RTE’s sporting lineup. I’m suggesting that they understand that the costs associated with producing shows to cover the Winter Olympics in the style they feel is necessary would be too much to recoup on viewership and sponsors here

    You yourself say you wouldn’t have watched it. Simply put, there is no audience for these sports.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I mean defending their non-sporting programme line up. Can you defend any of those repeats? are they making money? are they up to the style that RTÉ feel is necessary to get an audience?

    This is the same argument that I had regarding RTÉ and the electric picnic. At least there people there could say "well, they haven't got the rights to EP" in this instance however they have the rights.

    Are you saying that RTÉ Winter Olympic Highlights for the Player aren't as well produced as the rest of their sports programming? Do you have information about the cost of these highlights package?

    Are you suggesting that they would not have the same audience levels as the shows that the run at 7pm each night on RTÉ2?

    Simply put, RTÉ2 doesn't have an audience outside of sport and it is a public service broadcaster.

    Simply put if I had my way no sport would be on TV, but as suggested earlier "I accept that, just because I don't want to watch something, others do"

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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