Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

It may indeed take that length of time to sort out the legality of his latest 10% tariffs, but there are now from yesterdays judgement companies who will be seeking refunds of up to €175 billion paid in illegal tariffs, and from yesterday`s judgement it`s more than likely that whenever they get around to a judgement on this new 10% if he does not have Congress approval, the result will be the same.

None of these tariffs of Trump`s are putting extra money into the U.S. economy other than the extra tax these tariffs are taking from their own citizens. His big idea that tariffs payable by those outside of the U.S. would strengthen their economy - and fund his Big Beautiful Bill - are in tatters. He may try and kick it down the road, but those tariffs will have to be repaid with more interest on top the longer it takes to repay them.

Getting support from Congress might not be that cut and dried though. Republicans in both houses have been happily dodging the issue due to Trump`s executive orders,. and Trump not going to Congress to validate those tariffs would suggest Trump had doubts he would get it. John Thune for one, leader of the Senate Republican congress, is not a fan of tariffs.

The SAVE act is different in that it is not costing U.S. citizens financially, but these tariffs are as they are paying the vast share of them

I heard it suggested that when the 150 day limit was up on this new tariff regime Trump could start a new tariff regime which was almost identical so as to get another 150 days under this new label.

I also heard it suggested that if they did refund the billions in this now illegal tariff regime that it would work as a stimulus to the economy allowing the Repugnicans to point to a healthily upswinging economy as the mid terms approached.

Mind you it would not be as simple as an injection of cash(even though it was an effective tax on the population) and any refund would be to the businesses rather than to the consumers.

Maybe an injection of intelligence to the Maga supporters' skulls might be a more effective strategy ..

Trump is about 6 months off being a lame duck. Getting in fights with the supreme court means his domestic problems are probably at the forefront for him.

In terms of the rant of us being the country the US is most annoyed at. That's nonsense. The US has literally spent the last year burning relationships with all of its allies. He's probably most annoyed at their neighbours for standing up to him. Then there's Denmark and Norway. We don't even rank. We did get a Whitehouse invite already although I find it a tad disgusting to attend at the moment.

In terms of us being the most anti semetic country. It amounts to propaganda. We're opposed to the actions of the state of Israel.

Whoever came up with these illegal tariffs being refunded would work as an economic stimulus doesn`t appear to have thought it through. Based on that logic they are saying that the flip side is that these tariffs were really to the economy`s detriment.

Those refunds will not gain the consumer one cent. Companies who have been paying those tariffs will pocket the refunds with consumers most likely having to pay for those refunds, plus the interest accrued, plus the legal costs of both sides through extra federal taxes.

No doubt, the country has a fair chunk of idiots, even alot of educated idiots but I think Trumps effectiveness is gone now. Without the tarriff threat, countries will just ignore him. If its a 10% tarriff, so be it. Everyone knows the routine at this stage.

If they're idiotic enough to not neuter him in November then thats their problem. He can run the US into the ground as far as I'm concerned. As long as his ability to hurt other countries is greatly diminished

Yes, there was no great USD bounceback after the ruling.

A country divided is a country diminished.

Vital to note that implies that Trump and his handlers believe that should the initiate any action against Iran?
That they believe it will be either completely finished, or very much on the way to being so by then.
China's support for Iran is copper fastened by a 2 way barter trade, Chinese weapons, components, intel and support flowing one way and huge amounts of Iranian oil the other.

Should the US start and still be involved in a war with Iran?
The visit will be pushed back and particularly if there is any successful use of Chinese Air Defence or other weapons in countering US/Israel.

He lost a House vote on his Canadian tariffs only this week. Enough Republicans switched sides. The likes of Thomas Massie and Don Bacon have turned into a new awkward squad for him.

I`m not sure of the wisdom of listening to someone who has done time for contempt of congress is a genius move if you are planning to do the same yourself.

On a vote of 211 to 219 with 6 Republicans going against Trump`s wishes.

It financially benefits a very large number of Americans, including Trump. Something which doesnt get mentioned in the kind of 'feelings' you referenced.

And a corrupt Trump, do you really think he wouldnt setup this tax dodge and that tax dodge for his big business buddies?

Knowing the French, I`m sure they will give him the regards he is entitled too as a convicted felon.

Trump does not need the money, at his age in life he has more than he could very spend.

As of February 2026, Donald Trump's estimated net worth is approximately $6.5 billion to over $7 billion. That is 7,000,000,000.00 dollars.

Thats nearly as much as Apple and Microsoft give us each year now, bless 'em. Trump and his cronies in the Republican party want a fairer slice of that for the American taxpayer.

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