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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    let’s see what the next deflection is..

    Prob Iran and definitely the UFOs to suit his own conspiracy theories and no doubt covid will raise its head again

    Maybe countries should charge 20% tariffs and then the US will be in deficit.

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    I'd say the UFOs could get it along with Iran. He's in a real fit of pique just now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,340 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Trump has accused the SCOTUS decision on his tariffs of being influenced by foreign interests.

    His plans for Iran may have run into an overflight snag as the UK Govt is refusing to let U.S military aircraft involved in any attack on Iran land at and use U.K military bases. I expect Starmer is well aware of the opposition from within the U.K civil population to helping the U.S military at the best of times, let alone in an attack on Iran when there are natural sympathisers to Iran in the general U.K population liable to actively oppose any such help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,184 ✭✭✭✭banie01




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    and also..

    can you really go to war when you have just launched the dictatorship led “ Board of Peace”?

    First item on the agenda..

    Let’s go to war with Iran

    Even dumb Americans aren’t that dumb

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    I’d say the UFOs are Democratic Party initiated

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,889 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    They are that dumb unfortunately. They think 'strength is peace. '

    A few bombs aee a price worth paying to keep them arabs in their place

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    The Board of Peace is nothing but another Trump grift, that will be forgotten about quite soon. Why do you think he was demanding $1bn for permanent membership?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭somenergy


    Oh yes they are i meet them every day, but they 100% dont care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,889 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    The corporations will get their money back. Funded by the US deficit.

    Ban billionaires



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,634 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    he didnt get the uptake he expected so just lifted 10bn from the us public purse instead, outrageous carry-on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I heard there was a question as to the legality of the operation and that the UK could be liable if it assisted.

    I don't know if that is actually the case..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭threeball


    You could buy up tarriff debt from distressed businesses in order to free up cash flow, basically betting on there being a refund. Companies that took a big hit clearing their goods from customers and were desperate for cash flow could sell the chances of a rebate to chancers like Lutnick. Except for him it was never a chance. America having a go at Ukraine over corruption is like a sick joke. They wrote the book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,265 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I agree and yes I hope they all do sue him for as much as they can get.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    yup.. will have a massive impact on US economy for years, this is what happens when you don't understand tariffs and assume everyone is as ignorant about it as you are.

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    Never, ever underestimate how dumb Americans are..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,889 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,601 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I`m not sure he can do that. At least not for tariffs on the same countries. I may be wrong, but far as I can see he gets one shot at the 150 days, but after that he needs Congress approval to extend it, and if so, something he is highly unlikely to get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,601 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I agree. Him ranting was predictable over the judgement, but going after the two judges he himself appointed I wasn`t expecting.

    Now that they ignored his wishes with this judgement, his singling them out may hopefully make them more inclined to follow the law than his wishes with future judgements.

    There is no hope for the three that voted in his favor. It showed they are so much in his pocket that if he shot and killed a random stranger in a packed Time Square they would give him a free pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭ilkhanid




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,827 ✭✭✭plodder


    Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch are my new heroes (my old ones too). Appointed by Trump and knowing that he would expect favourable decisions in return. But, they resisted and stuck by the constitution.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5748068-barrett-gorsuch-trump-disloyalty/

    President Trump said Supreme Court Justices Amy Coney Barrett’s and Neil Gorsuch’s decisions to rule against his administration’s tariff policies are “an embarrassment to their families.” 

    “I don’t want to say whether I regret nominating them. I think their decision was terrible,” Trump told reporters at the White House press briefing.

    “I think it’s an embarrassment to their families,” he said. 

    Shout out to John Roberts also, who wrote the judgement. Another good guy!

    Post edited by plodder on

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    It took 10 months from the initial court case on the tariffs until the Supreme Court ruled them illegal. So after the initial 150 days, that's potentially another 300 days before the Supreme Court rules on what 150 days actually means etc… I suspect he will just stop after 150 days, wait a day and reinstate them.

    Then it's up to the Supreme Court to decide how long of a gap between the 150 days ending and a new 150 days commencing is acceptable. Is it 150 days per calendar year, per presidential term, per congressional session etc…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,974 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I think you may be wrong, yes. Trump cares not a jot for democratic norms. It's been said before, but if people are relying on checks & balances to save American democracy from emergent MAGA fascism, they're going to be waiting forever. You need to actually enforce those checks & balances. You need to have people generally agree to abide by them. But what you have in the US right now is about half the electorate engaging in a cult of personality, putting one man above the constitution and the law. Or if they're not doing that, they're certainly aiding & abetting those who do. That's not really what you'd call a stable foundation for a functional democracy. It's the kind of division and chaos someone like Trump utterly thrives upon.

    With Trump it's gone like this,

    2016: Ah, he'll never be elected. (he was elected)

    2017 - 2020 : Ah, he's going to do something to get indicted. (impeached, but not indicted)

    2021 - 2024: Well, with the Capitol Riots and the sexual assault case, he's finished (Not only not finished, but re-elected)

    2025 - : Well, the checks & balances will stop the worst of it…. (are they?)

    Point being that you cannot be complacent about the man and yet it is a trap people in the US and around the world have walked into time & time & time again.

    He should be abiding by the court ruling. The idea that he's not only not doing that, but publicly criticising judges for striking his tariffs down is outrageous despot stuff, but this kind of behaviour is so normalised that it's just another news day, ready to be replaced by a fresh outrage tomorrow. Flood the zone.

    So, in short, if it comes to a confrontation with Congress, Trump will ignore them and who will enforce the law upon him? Pam Bondi or Kash Patel?? Ha!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,340 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    There's the thought that any cooperation by the U.K with an pre-emptive strike would be a breach of international law. It's not something which would bother Trump's administration, as it chooses not to recognize something which lawfully hinders it.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,706 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    If the $10bn in question is the money he claimed should go to his Board of Peace thing, then he hasn’t ‘stolen’ anything. He cannot spend money which has not been appropriated by Congress, as the first of the two articles you link to specifically states, and Congress has not done such a thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,340 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    SCOTUS still has some other Trump plans the legality it has to rule upon yet, the main one being the citizenship clause in the constitution covering people born inside the U.S itself as he is arguing the words in the constitution have an alternative meaning to that understood, in law, to date. If he were to lose that case, todays expression of dismay at SCOTUS might be small in comparison, given the importance of citizenship to the right to vote in the U.S as he sees it presently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,497 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Don't forget Congress decided a day isn't a day anymore and the last year or so has actually only been one day.....



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Roughly 3% of GDP.

    Compare to US GDP is forecast to expand 2.5% in 2026 (fourth quarter, year over year), versus the consensus economist estimate of 2.1%.

    It's like saying you'll have €210-250 more in your wallet next week because you've taken out €300 cash on your credit card. You still have to pay back the debt and the interest.

    Next time Democrats are in power they should just spend like Republicans , well spend as much but on stuff the country needs like roads and health. There's no point in being fiscally responsible unless they can stay in power long enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,340 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    He's counting on those who voted for him to have a "who gives a **** about them" attitude to another state which he can point at and claim "they are the enemy" with some confidence that the voters will swallow that line.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,356 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Yet. You forgot the word yet.

    But the bigger issue is that Trump now has to explain how he intends to pay for everything he has been promising aa it was all based on his, now judged illegal, tariffs.

    He has already promised massive increase in Military spend. Bailed out the soy bean farmers. $20bn to Argentina. Massive increase in spending on ICE.

    His entire economic policy, if it was ever believable in the 1st place, is in tatters.



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