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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭ath262


    Seems to be back in action



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    I genuinely believe we'll never see them online, no joke.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Well, now. There are some changes on Irishgenealogy in the past week, and currently the early death indexes seem to be gone entirely. Does this mean something is happening?!

    They also have listened to feedback and you can now search by county, which returns results by registration district, which can be filtered. As you type a location, it finds a county or district that matches.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I'd love to have the old site back - the new one just doesn't work for me at all.

    It's okay if you're looking for a single easy-to-find record but otherwise it's a pain.

    What I especially don't like is that every time you press Search it resets all parameters you've previously entered such as number of records displayed, date/relevance or even additional surnames.

    Also you can't click on the districts in the side bar and have them open in individual tabs.

    How do the rest of ye find it?

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I've made my peace with the new site, but the setting not sticking is annoying.

    They're definitely playing around with it at the moment. I just did a search for Murphy, no location, deaths 1864-1870. It's given a total of 13 results, and they're all in the newer format with the Group Registration ID, rather than page, volume, etc.

    Do submit feedback! genealogy@tcagsm.gov.ie

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I will write to them anon but, just like my engagement on the new census website layout, I don't expect to get very far and that frustration does wonders for chronic fatigue.

    The biggest issue is the shear number of extra clicks required to do any work.

    Also, while looking at some of what's going on with the death records (fingers crossed), I'm reminded that clicking to have the results in date order doesn't work either.

    It really is a complete mess.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    Have there been records removed? I had a note on one of my ancestors in Wikitree:

    Currently no image.

    • Registration Area: Nenagh
    • Age: 48

    I just went to search for him, in case an image had been added to the record. In fact, now nothing turns up at all…..

    P.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    They are tweaking it at the moment and changing the old death index references into the newer format.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    There's a lot of changes going on with Irishgenealogy at the moment.

    Having tried a lot of different ways to search, I find what's best at the moment is to put no location at all in the box and then use the filters when the results return.

    A test search for particular parameters in Co. Dublin produces no results, but when I leave out the location, it finds 25 results, 12 of which are in "Dublin".

    I've sent a lengthy feedback email & crossed my fingers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,477 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The county location search seems misguided to an extent, some counties have tiny fragments of registration districts resulting in huge piles of records from that district being flagged

    However, the combined church and civil search resulted in me finding a marriage that appears to have failed to make it to the civil records or index; but was indexed in the Dublin RC church records.

    I have no idea how many other finds like that I may have missed by never searching the church records as they are so limited and often seem irrelevant - this couple were from North Wexford! Appear to have both been working in Dublin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Grey123


    I have been away from this for a while, very frustratingly they have changed all the links for the pages with the transcript. I have the actual pdf saved but in my tracker I had saved links to the pages with the text for some people as opposed to a print screen. All dead now (pardon the pun)…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,477 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Extremely annoying, but it shows the value of having those saved documents - things like this can and do go offline due to spurious data protection complaints for instance. Some of us have documents saved down from when the system was basically live info and had much newer files!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I discovered the same pitfall a long way back and no longer rely solely on saved links as a point of reference.

    So, for instance, if it's a death notice from RIP.ie I'll take a screen grab of the notice and just refer to the site generally as the source rather than saving the specific link as they tend to change over time.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Sunday Indo reporting the annual release of data is coming tomorrow.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    I wonder where the name 'Charles' came from then, and why? It's a pickle!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,477 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Theres a retired footballer who ended up being called Charlie because someone commented that his actual name made him "a right proper Charlie" as an insult.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Oatway

    I doubt that happened for CJ. But we've had another Taoiseach with untrue mythos about their name, Ahern



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Probably a baptismal name for the archbishop

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭BowWow




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Yes, haven't had a chance to do much playing yet, but no early deaths.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Yes, been having some luck with a few births though frustratingly two of them occurred in late '25 so weren't registered till the following year.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭VirginiaB


    Any idea why they are hanging onto those early deaths? They are such a vital look into that time of Irish history where records are few.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    No. I emailed genealogy@ccs.gov.ie today about it & got the standard response that it's the GRO's fault.

    I have also emailed the GRO, forwarding that correspondence and asking for clarity.

    If other people want to do the same, their address is gro@welfare.ie

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Blog post about this issue and some workarounds.

    https://cbgenealogy.ie/those-pesky-early-death-records/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    ……'as soon as they are provided'!!!!!! Very unhelpful.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I know!

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    The death indexes for 1864-1870 are back. I had an email from the IG team confirming it and my test searches concur.

    Still no images but they reiterate that the GRO is at fault here.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,805 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I wish they'd all stop with the blame football and just get on with the job of making the missing images available.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭ollaetta


    My excitement of hearing the births for 1925 were up was cooled when the View Record link for the person I'm interested in came up "not found". I've reported it but I'd imagine it will be a good while before it's rectified.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    that likely means they were registered after 1925 - best to order a copy if you need it soon.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭ollaetta


    Luckily, it's just for my own interest and I don't need a copy for anything. The person was born in May 1925 so the birth should have been registered in that year. Interestingly though, any records for three brothers who I know to have been born in 1918, 1920 and 1925 don't appear on the website at all!



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