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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/cbs-denies-stephen-colbert-forced-not-air-talarico-interview-fcc-equal-time-1236665701/

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/variety-magazine/

    Equal Time Act issue?

    Trump is as corrupt as any leader is history, other than Sam Harris I hear very few go into details*. Spinning stories which are questionable doesn't help things.

    Example $500M stake UAE state in Trumps crypto scam followed by UAE access to advanced drone technology. UAE also share technology with China.

    Vietnam tariff concession following Trump golf resort green light.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    We have all been saying that a while now .And yet they still rumble on .

    Look at the ridiculous nonsense they come out with to deflect from the main stories . And on social media people who support MAGA come out fighting to the last word , defending more and more ridiculous comments and situations , and keeping the conversation going on non- stories .

    Ensuring discussion on what is essential and real important matters are not discussed .

    But.. but, it's free speech .

    Post edited by Goldengirl on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,311 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Those Variety links are some of the worst /garbled/ paywalls I have ever seen.

    Anyway I agree that if its an equal time issue then its a valid argument, but why not just offer the Republican side an interview? If they accept they are not going to convince that audience, and if they refuse then the interview should be allowed to go ahead.

    I fully agree with the point that the Trump side is so corrupt that its stupid to use non-issues, there are plenty of real issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,548 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    One of the replies...

    This is lovely, but they should’ve waited until Pride Month to come out like this 🥰

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,116 Mod ✭✭✭✭circadian


    What's with the jeans?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭pgmcpq


    You are not wrong. A visit to western Pennsylvania is eye opening and you start to understand where one strand of MAGA comes from. And the Democrats take the blame on this too having abandoned the working poor over the last few decades in the search for “electability”. The institutional two party system combined with the Citizens United Supreme Court decision has led to a toxic mix.

    Trump was elected not to achieve anything but to “stick it to the libtards” ( a common phrase in my local old fashioned barbers). As such he’s been a success.

    I fear for the midterm elections. But voter suppression is not new. It is however become more aggressive with ICE and the Save Bill. Problem is there is a large population of people who correctly recognize that democracy (such as it is) has not delivered for them, so why should they care.

    it’s a long way back for the US, but there are signs of a new generation of leaders, AOC, David Hogg, Mandani, Katie Porter emerging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Annd9


    I never said she was talking about animal rights ...The first paragraph of your post clearly insinuates that her tweet could be referring to living conditions of dogs in city's as opposed to what she actually said about them being dirty animals and we (muslims) have always been correct about it.

    Obviously she is totally free to express her religious beliefs in the same way non religious people are free to criticise those beliefs ,particularly when they are batshit crazy.

    Fine is obviously a racist but I would rather live with a pack of dogs then a pack of Burkes solely because of their religious beliefs and I see nothing wrong with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    At the risk of meandering further off topic, but you did ask

    This weeks example

    Closer to home look at the Stripe story often cited as the most successful Irish company {who hilariously enough will likely not even go public on Irish stock exchange but US} and entrepreneurs, they had to move to US to get startup funding and get big and only then returned back to Europe and Ireland outgrowing their competitors in Europe by about 10x in same timeframe

    not willing to admit that there are easily fixable problems as outlined in the EU Draghi report i linked is why even the median US household income (this would accommodate the extreme inequality they have there) adjusted for PPP is also pulling away, along side productivity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    The new generation of leaders will do what they are told to.

    Since the late 70 and estimated 50 Trillion in wealth has moved from working and middle classes to top 1%. That's the story in the USA.

    They can keep the population in check with that wealth transfer because the corporations, (big tech, crypto, big pharma, big oil etc) through the super PAC system have the political system by the balls.

    Most elected representatives spend most of their time fundraising. There are more lobbyists in DC that elected officials. The system is fcuked.

    Trump is the inevitable outcome of a population fighting over scraps driven insane and controlled by social media.

    A significant portion of Trumps base/coalition couldn't exist without social media; QAnon(MTG rump), Tucker Carlson, Rogan Fuentes, Cadence Owens etc.

    The reward structure for big tech comes from their algorithms driving people insane. This can't get better until that is fixed. That can't be fixed without breaking the super PAC system.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Let's not paint this as Europe being backwards. These companies have rules and regulations here to stop them doing stuff to hurt economies or citizens.

    They are moving to the US for two reasons, tax evasion and because they are not beholden to rules and regulations that stop them from, I don't know, generation porn for nonces or selling people's data to data brokers.

    I can 100% guarantee that this company, so concerned with European rules and regulations, hasn't closed it's skeleton crewed Irish branch so that they can make use of the tax loopholes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Another AI startup? Fabulous. Throwing toys out of the pram because he can't force staff to work 7 days a week?

    He should try Chiiiiina!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Ehhhh ... so the best you can come up with is an Irish-born company doing great business in Europe ... ? Your assertion was that companies are avoiding the EU in favour of the less regulated US (and other?) market.

    All you've illustrated so far is that the US is a great place for rich people to get richer - but we've known that to be the case since rich Europeans "discovered" the continent in 1492.

    The current administration has obviously decided to embroil the whole new-native population in their re-enactment of those heady days; that's no reason for the rest of us to play the same game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Both are interesting points but we have an innovative product that took the AI world by storm last month, packing bags and leaving

    No amount of spin changes the fact that this is a negative for Europe

    There should be zero reasons for cutting edge startups to move.

    Like Stripe they probably be back in 10 years with our politicians cutting ribbons praising them, meanwhile creating wealth and innovation in US and not Europe where we wait for the “trickle down”

    Implement the damned Draghi report already, even the ECB head keeps mentioning it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    An Irish born company that had to completely leave Ireland, get funding and guidance in US for several years and only return to European market when they were a tech giant bypassing and bankrupting several European competitors who stayed

    You asked for an example and I gave you two, there is no reason why Europe can’t become an innovation center in STEM

    All of this happened before Trump whom as you can see from my posts here I absolutely despise, unwillingness to admit that there are issues is how MAGA has managed to worm its way into politics

    Blindly dismissing and not implementing the Draghi report will lead MAGA like deplorables worming their way into European politics as resentment grows, I absolutely despise the Vance narrative about Europe stagnating but there is a small kernel of truth behind his lies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    https://www.wired.com/story/openclaw-banned-by-tech-companies-as-security-concerns-mount/

    Sure one day you taking the world by storm the next….

    AI world by storm last month

    The AI world is largely a bunch of tech bros pumping stock.

    There will some other must have investment next week.

    But by all means you should invest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Maybe so, maybe not, tho in my day this sneering you are doing at any and all innovation used to be a trait of the conservative and “republican” parties which got hijacked by MAGA

    You just talked yourself into a position which is not miles apart from the couchfucking hillbillies who voted Trump and Vance in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Any díckhead moaning that he can't exploit workers belongs with couch fúckers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭midlander12


    When in fact, Trump was in court for refusing to rent properties to black people, while Jackson was cutting his political teeth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    He was specifically talking about OpenAI in the article where “exploited workers” get between € 210k and 1.07 million a year



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Took the AI world by storm? Innovative? All they did was get bought out by a parent company spending money it doesn't have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    No he wasn't, he was bemoaning Austrian Labour laws because he couldn't exploit workers.

    He is basically trying to be a Temu version of that fanny goat Musk.

    You are picking a strange hill to die TBH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I'll tell you one thing, I certainly don't want the US-style "live to work" culture coming over here.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,116 Mod ✭✭✭✭circadian


    Paying people a load of cash doesn't mean they can be expected to work 70+ hours a week under a ton of stress just because the tech bros at the top are trying to avoid the inevitable burst.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    I remember similar criticism being levelled at Stripe whom initially were not different from any of dozens card payment processors built on top of visa:Mastercard

    Fast forward few years and our politicians are tripping over themselves inviting them back to Ireland and trying to claim them as best example of “Irish innovation” and “Europes largest tech unicorn”

    It’s easy to sneer from sidelines but it ain’t easy to grow a startup in Europe, it should not be hard



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Everything you've presented in this thread (up to now) as something we Europeans should aspire to is based on IT magic money. What about all the other products and services that contribute to our daily lives and our national economies? Things like safe food, safe roads and the vehicles that drive on them, clean fuels, environmentally responsible development, accessible healthcare, accesible cultural events … ?

    There are businesses behind every one of those sectors too, businesses that are not based on squeezing every last penny/centime out of customers nor squeezing every last minute of "productivity" out of their workers. How about providing us with examples of companies operating in these areas that are avoiding the EU in favour of the US, which (again) was your original assertion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Sure

    Energy; any number of fission and fusion startups working on clean green energy avoiding Europe, since outside a couple of countries in EU most absolutely despise the N(uclear) word and there’s is no funding, solar and wind manufacturers struggling with likes of orsted on brink of bankruptcy due to China flooding the market

    Food; plant based or lab grown meats being penalised out of existence

    Fuel: fracking tech more or less banned right across Europe with us relying on questionable countries for gas, hydrogen ending up an expensive flop

    Cars: Whole of German/Feench etc car industry being completely out competed by China and their slave labour

    Road; what roads? It’s next to impossible to construct any sort of infrastructure especially in Ireland

    Healthcare/Social; don’t know enough about subject to comment but my Novo Nordisk investment is in the dumps for a while now

    Perhaps you can give us an example of European companies in these areas that are not also in US and Chinese markets doing well and not being outcompeted out of existence? How about you answer some questions for once

    The European markets did do well last year despite the Trump clown show so maybe the tide is turning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,223 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It already exists amongst many of the thousands working in MNCs here. I have always wondered why we haven't grown more indigenous IT/MedTech/Pharma companies considering the talent pool we have.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    ”I have always wondered why we haven't grown more indigenous IT/MedTech/Pharma companies considering the talent pool we have.”


    just scroll up higher up this page at the sneering and dismissive attitudes at the concept of a startup

    All after I pointed out that Draghi report identified the root issues and made recommendations to help us in Europe backed by ECB but now gathering dust for years

    Trump, Vance etc all are assholes of the highest caliber, but the meme of failing Europe they have blown out of all proportion does contain a small kernel of truth, a kernel that our own European technocratic brains have long ago identified, listed and offered solutions for



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    That's all a load of vague assertions with not a single concrete example to back up your point. And most of it is completely untrue. I have personal connections to people working in Europe, for European companies in almost every one of the areas you list.

    FWIW : I passed this site the other day and saw that they've embarked on a huge new building project https://www.framatome.com/en/implantations/chalon-sur-saone/ so there's obviously no shortage of funding available there.

    And a long way downstream, https://www.iter.org/about/iter-france these guys are still going strong.

    Just because someone somewhere is doing something in one way doesn't mean that (a) it's going to be successful; or (b) that it's the right thing for somewhere else. Much of the dysfunction we've seen - and continue to see - in the USA is directly due to the immigrant population (by which I mean mostly Europeans) trying to impose their old habits on a new environment.



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