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2025 Irish EV Sales

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Killer K


    How did you come to that conclusion? What is the CSO figure for Hybrids?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    From reading the article. 3,781 plug in hybrids were privately licensed in January 2026 versus 5,439 privately licensed EV's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Killer K


    But that is only plug in hybrids. Hybrid (petrol-electric) according to SIMI are the most popular at 28%. The discrepancy between CSO and SIMI figures would have to be large for this to change. Based on the fact that they decided to give other fuel types, we are able to tell that Hybrid (petrol ekectric) is the biggest share. This article, is poorly written and fails to mention the best selling category in January 2026. So can understand why you believe EVs were the best sellers.

    Of course it suits the narrative to cherry pick or only highlught certain stats on occasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    I clearly stated privately owned licenced vehicles in my posts. It appears with your attempt at leading questions you have a bee on your bonnet regarding the stats.

    Whatever they say the trend is clear, EV adoption is growing with pure ICE numbers in decline.

    Fossil fuels are on the way out with hybrids seen as a stop gap before we're fully electric in 15 years time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Killer K


    There are no leading questions, i asked the question to see if i was missing something but based on your replies I have not. There is no need to be getting upset with me on this. I already said the article was misleading and I can understand why you have misinterpreted it.

    I do have a bee in my bonnet as regards to incorrect or misleading reporting on statistics.

    The trend is clearly going in one direction, but that is no excuse for misinterpreting data when it has now been pointed out to you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    Have a go at rte or the CSO then, both reputable institutions I referenced. I suspect the reason it wasn't mentioned was because BEV has been ahead of HEV for several months now with January a blip as it was the start of the new year - a statistical anomaly.

    I'd wager February's numbers will show the fuel types reversing positions once again with BEV adoption continuing along a steady path.

    Screenshot_20260216-080010~2.png

    As you can see from the graph BEV have been smashing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    I think the whole idea of "You'd be mad not to buy anything but an EV in 2026" is completely idiotic.

    Judging by those stats there are going to be many hybrids on the roads for another 20+ years. There's also well over 50,000 non EV's being imported every year too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Killer K


    Thank you for posting this table, the data in which corrects a number of your previous posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭crl84


    So to be clear, vehicles that require petrol/diesel to run still vastly outsell vehicles that have the ability to plug a charger into them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Killer K


    Correct. BEV is doing much better than it was previously (where it underperformed for a number of years) but this shouldn't be overstated at this point. As a category it will continue to grow but still has a long long way to go before it could be considered dominant.

    Before I get accused of having an agenda, I have owned petrol, diesel, hybrid, PHEV and BEV. I don't subscribe to the idea, BEV good, everything else bad.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    You're completely missing the point.

    A closer look at the CSO data tells a very clear story: BEVs topped the charts for licensed vehicles in the second half of 2025. People can slice the numbers however they like—some will insist that five out of six drivetrains still rely on fossil fuels, while others will point out that four out of six include a battery.

    To me, that kind of framing is irrelevant. The direction of travel is obvious.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭creedp


    On the one hand EVs are smashing it…yeahhh…but on the other hand the Govt are a disgrace for not offering increased incentives to EV buyers because EV sales are not smashing it. The narrative is somewhat confused.

    From my perspective EV sales are ticking along nicely and will continue to increase in the years ahead. So presumably that’s good news



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Agreed, the direction of travel is the important part rather than the individual figures. January to June had the electric figure at 17% so going from that to 24% there's a huge bounce and the most certain sign yet that the days of the fossil fuel engine are largely numbered

    As an aside your table adds up to 101% which is driving my OCD nuts haha!

    Would largely agree with you on what you say about govt incentives. I think the second-hand market is important here and there's an opportunity to improve confidence in the second hand market by scrapping the taxes paid on importing an EV, specifically from the UK. This can be indirectly done by offering a grant to the value of the taxes paid on importing an EV. But then there would be less money for bike shelters and security huts to be fair



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Discounting EVs further is just going to continually disrupt consumer confidence- people who paid good money for an EV seeing it greatly discounted a couple of months later isn’t going to sit well -yes it does happen on models not selling well etc but hopefully we now have some sort of stability in the market with a greater choice of vehicles compared to say 2022.

    I’d prefer to see much better credit terms, longer battery and indeed car guarantees etc - cost is only one factor in consumer decision making - peace of mind is a huge factor too.

    People are driving much older cars than they were say 7 years ago - I reckon Working from Home (reduced milage) and people waiting on the EV market to get to where it is now ie better choice and range-, are probably 2 key reasons why people haven’t bought to date.

    There’s very little reason not to buy an EV today - lots of choice, good ranges, proven reliability - no ability for a home charger is probably a key reason for some though- I’d accept that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    People who paid good money for an EV seeing it greatly discounted a couple of months later isn’t going to sit well

    We were told many moons ago that battery technology would get cheaper as time went on. I'm not sure why there is so much surprise and annoyance when car manufacturers start passing these savings on to customers. Yes your vehicle is now worth less on trade-in but your next EV is now also much cheaper, realistically these should cancel each other out

    no ability for a home charger is probably a key reason for some though- I’d accept that.

    Agreed, this is a key reason many people are so hesitant to buy an EV. Until there can be a degree of confidence in public charging it's unlikely that apartment dwellers or those without driveways will make the switch

    Discounting pre-owned EVs and creating confidence in second hand EVs will help with those who might be thinking of switching but don't want the investment burden of a new car



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    There’s a decent supply of public charging - that’s not the issue- the issue is, it’s so bloody expensive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Decent supply, yes, but always room for improvement

    There are some decent subscription options, such as if you live near one of the 6 Ionity sites in our country. Weev as well with their Wednesday promotions can provide good value as well, as long as they continue. They don't compare to some of the home rates which can be as low as 8 or 9 cents but they can make moving from diesel attractive if they stick around for a while

    A bigger issue I think is the perception that the prices are unstable. In 2022 ESB Ecars doubled their prices over the space of 9 months. That simply doesn't happen in the petrol/diesel industry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,605 ✭✭✭✭josip


    That type of fluctuation does happen at the raw price of oil though, but the amount of govt tax on petrol/diesel helps to smooth out the noise :|



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Price drops had absolutely nothing to do with battery technology. Legacy makers EV's were not selling and got massively undercut by Tesla so they were forced to reduce their prices. It's not as if they released new models with cheaper battery tech, they literally just slashed thousands off existing stock that wasn't selling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    haha, apologies, excel rounded it to the nearest %. Here's another 101% table which shows August to December 2025 - Electric pushes further ahead.

    My theory is that there's a type of HEV driver out there who likes getting a new car at the start of a new plate, hence why we see a spike in 252 and 261 plates before the category falls away over the following 5 months (as was the case from August to December last year). The data out next month will, I expect, support my hypothesis.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    EV supply tends to be fairly inconsistent too with so many new models being launched, unlike ICE cars that are ready to buy in January.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    True but nobody cares about the raw oil price, just the price they pay at the pump

    It's likely that Tesla price drops had a lot to do with battery technology coming down though

    https://about.bnef.com/insights/clean-transport/new-record-lows-for-battery-prices/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,631 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Hand picking months to suit things doesn’t help anyone. BEV sales are increasing. Great.

    Petrol and petrol that can be charged is higher when you look at 12 months. Nobody knows yet what way it will go over the next 12 but BEVs will increase. Intentionally skewing things by saying a car that can take a plug is a BEV to suit numbers is nonsense and isn’t needed here, it’s a positive story about BEVs regardless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Killer K


    Spot on Mark. One can't exclude the months most people buy cars as a statistical irrelevance or anomaly either.

    BEVs currently have a prevailing wind behind them but will be interesting to see if this van be maintained or accelerated over the medium term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Manufacturers are quite literally being forced by the EU to offer less ICE cars and more BEV cars, so of course the trend will continue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Killer K


    Yes they certainly are and being prevented from designing and manufacturing the ICE cars they want to make and consumers would like to buy. Whether there will be policy shifts over the next decade is the unknown. We already saw a shift, even if relatively minor in December on the extension of the 2035 deadline at EU level. Grid congestion and geopolitical factors may or may not also impact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Where do ye get these tables and charts that breakdown bev, Phev and hybrid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,631 ✭✭✭MarkN


    you can be sure VW are lobbying the German government for starters. Not to stop making EVs obviously but to set clear paths for ICE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Handpicking months might not make sense, but picking the sales figures in years or half-years can paint an overall better picture

    There is already a clear path for the discontinuation of ICE, even the most recent extension isn't anything to sing about. Boris Johnsons Brexit now will be stopping the sales of new ICE before the EU does.

    The German car makers don't like that though and clearly want to hold on to ICE for as long as possible due to the lower cost to build and higher ongoing maintenance costs. Potentially helped by OPEC. Sad really that it all comes down to greed



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    German automakers want to continue selling cars with engines because that's what sells well and that's what customers want to buy. How many people would even consider an EV if it wasn't for the massive grants and incentives governments are having to offer in order to shift them?

    If we didn't have huge VRT on ICE cars and huge grants on EV's absolutely no one would buy them here.



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