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2025-26 Emirates FA Cup

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I’m aware. Also not what I was referring to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    ok well we’ll get going on this wider vote you are proposing shall we?


    im pro, you’re against. 1-1. About 1 billion people to go. Who’s next?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,156 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I’d say it would fall short in almost all the footballing stakeholder groups that aren’t rich football club owners. The refs were against it, the players complain about it all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    what’s the source for the refs being against it?

    The players are against it because they complain about it. Do you see a glaring issue with that argument or do I have to point it out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,875 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Ex players also complain, McManaman last night for example in the same breath as saying Ngumoha was actually onside was full of praise for how much more enjoyable it was to watch a Liverpool game without VAR, which I completely agreed with, it was great

    You still get the odd bad decision but it's much easier to brush off than when it happens with VAR



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    so why do we have VAR?

    From the last page of posts I’m reading that democratically football is against it…refs are against it, players are against it, Steve McManaman is against it…why is this tyranny being foisted upon us?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,875 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Most professional games don't actually have VAR.

    looking at the ones that do, I think the reason we have it is more for the fans sitting at home rather than those in the stands as it's the most televised leagues that introduced it so far

    Same as having Dua Lipa play Champions League Final on the pitch, it's the commercialisation of the sport

    They want more stoppages. Wait and you'll see the public debate about time added on will result in them eventually stopping the clock

    They'll point at rugby being the blueprint but it's actually the NFL they want to model. Then you'll have ad breaks during VAR checks or clocks stopped etc

    I might be wrong but let's come back in 10 years and see because all I see is making the experience worse for the people in the stadium

    If you democratically surveyed a bunch of online PL fans from outside the UK on whether they want VAR, and then ask the same question to a bunch of PL fans who go to the games in the UK I guarantee the foreign fans will show a higher % in favour

    So you're probably right, canvas the barstoolers in Ireland and they might also agree

    But that's my point, it's clear whose experience is being priorisitised



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    I would have thought yesterday was a nice little snapshot of life again without VAR and find it mental that there's commentators saying how enjoyable it was watching a bunch of incorrect calls getting made

    Sweet Jesus

    The VAR process needs refining and the standards of the people working it needs raising. But life without the technology is not in anyways appealing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    I don’t really accept your guarantee. It doesn’t seem to be based on any proof based research and is just your take. Which is fair enough but I don’t agree with it.


    my own theory is simply many football fans can’t deal with decisions made against their favourite football team. Which is quite a simple sentence but needs to be processed psychologically.

    Var is the supply line of all the most important most important debatable decisions (it’s also the supply line of some really clear cut decisions that were made egregiously incorrectly by the on pitch officials) in football now and football fans have to cope with decisions made against their teams and frankly they are often just not psychologically prepared to cope with that reality so they strike back illogically.


    it is illogical to think that one perspective from one person in real time will have anything like the same level of accuracy as multiple perspectives that can be viewed in slow motion.

    A glib analogy but it’s not dissimilar to saying if my car was robbed I wouldn’t care if the thief’s face was seen by one person on the street or 4 CCTV cameras.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,875 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    For the record I'm in favour of technology for offside as long as it's semi automated with being fully automated in future

    I think that's a good addition if it can produce a decision in the same timeframe as the goal line technology that has been successfully brought in

    And that's because both of those things can be objectively assessed by technology

    As technology advances and you can have more objectivity around where the ball is and who touches it you can start automating corners, throws etc. start lighting up the section of the sideline where the ball crossed so that it's clear where the throw in can be taken from, use the colour of the team who's throw it is so there's no human decision......

    All of this is where I see it should go and would be completely fine if done correctly and timely

    But "VAR" right now is not a technology. I hate people saying VAR is technology. It's not. It's a referee. A VAR is literally a person. And what the sport needs is sensible automation around objective decision making rather than just introducing another referee into the human decision making process around subjective decisions



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,875 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Ok I apologise for saying guarantee, that's hyperbole

    But I strongly believe it to be true. I've gone to many games with and without VAR and interacted with plenty of people and I have a strong impression that fans in the crowd do not enjoy the experience, or at least are not as likely to defend it, than fans I read online....which in itself is flawed given the extreme opinions, bots, echo chambers etc

    But I really feel strongly that it doesn't benefit fans, or isn't designed to benefit fans, who've paid at the turnstiles and that doesn't smell right to me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,780 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Got my Macclesfield and Mansfield mixed up thinking hadn't seen anyone saying Mansfield knocked out another PL team.

    Still a big shock to see Mansfield knocking out a PL team mind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,690 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Switched on the Grimsby/Wolves affair

    Proper early year FA Cup pitch there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Leeds Birmingham was good stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,780 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Wonder who Leeds will get drawn away to this time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    haven’t made a semi since 1987 if I’m not mistaken so they are due a run



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,955 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Whoever it is it'll be a 12pm KO on the Sunday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,780 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    This is a dizzying cup run already, let's not to mad thinking of a semi final



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,849 ✭✭✭✭blueser


    Do what we do, according to the suspicions of many on here; pay off the powers that be to ensure easy draws. Simples.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,780 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Knowing leeds history that'd push them into administration



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,211 ✭✭✭Acosta


    A fairly dull weekend of it. The SPL is more entertaining



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,955 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Leeds keeper Lucas Perri had notes on Birmingham's penalty takers written on his water bottle. Unfortunately Birmingham were were a commemorative kit with no shorts numbers so he had to guess!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,156 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Fourth Round Results
    Hull City 0 V 4 Chelsea
    Wrexham 1 V 0 Ipswich Town
    Burton Albion 0 V 1 West Ham United AET
    Burnley 1 V 2 Mansfield Town
    Manchester City 2 V 0 Salford City
    Norwich City 3 V 1 West Bromwich Albion
    Southampton 2 V 1 Leicester City AET
    Aston Villa 1 V 3 Newcastle United
    Liverpool 3 V 0 Brighton and Hove Albion
    Birmingham City 1 V 1 Leeds United AET Leeds United win on pens 4-2
    Grimsby Town 0 V 1 Wolverhampton Wanderers
    Oxford United 0 V 1 Sunderland
    Stoke City 1 V 2 Fulham
    Arsenal 4 V 0 Wigan Athletic

    Fourth Round Games
    Monday 16th February (19:30)
    Macclesfield V Brentford - Live on TNT Sports 1

    Tuesday 3rd March (19:45)
    Port Vale V Bristol City

    Fifth Round Draw
    Fulham V Southampton
    Port Vale/Bristol City V Sunderland
    Newcastle United V Manchester City
    Leeds United V Norwich City
    Mansfield Town V Arsenal
    Wolverhampton Wanderers V Liverpool
    Wrexham V Chelsea
    West Ham United V Macclesfield/Brentford

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,849 ✭✭✭✭blueser


    Away to Newcastle. Damn. The brown envelopes mustn't have reached their destinations. Heads will have to roll.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    Next rounds live on TNT

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    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,156 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Fourth Round Results
    Macclesfield 0 V 1 Brentford
    Port Vale 1 V 0 Bristol City AET

    Fifth Round
    Friday 6th March
    Wolverhampton Wanderers V Liverpool - (20:00) - Live on BBC One / TNT Sports 1

    Saturday 7th March
    Mansfield Town V Arsenal - (12:15) - Live on TNT Sports 1
    Wrexham V Chelsea - (17:45) - Live on BBC One / TNT Sports 2
    Newcastle United V Manchester City - (20:00) - Live on TNT Sports 1

    Sunday 8th March
    Fulham V Southampton - (12:00) - Live on TNT Sports 2
    Port Vale V Sunderland - (13:30) - Live on TNT Sports 1
    Leeds United V Norwich City - (16:30) - Live on TNT Sports 1

    Monday 9th March
    West Ham United V Brentford - (19:30) - Live on TNT Sports 1

    ******



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,917 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    2 fast goals gives Liverpool the lead, they should push on from here.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,917 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    A fairly comfortable win in the end for Liverpool, 1-3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,690 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Really poor all round from an Arsenal perspective, but Mansfield get a more than deserved equaliser.

    If Mansfield can keep their heads for the next 10-20mins after the goal, they could make a decent fist to get to extra time

    Edit - couldn't in the end. Eze comes on as a sub to put Arsenal back in front.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭JohnySwan


    They could still force extra time, 6 minutes added.



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