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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    The point 4 will be the rollover scheme before hectares



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭limo_100


    which is a real kick to anyone who's not in it, it will be rolled over for 2extra years probably



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Picking Dasies


    Applied for weighting scales through TAMS.

    Which one is best. I'm in ICBF if one would suit me better for recording live weights.

    Thanks in advance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Sorry if I’m being this up again but just wondering anyone that has a creep area and a crush inside what is the minimum width you could get away with? Would 20ft be ok or is too tight. Trying to design a good crush but struggling to get it to fall together for me. Just want a simple crush with a squeeze box at the bottom of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    IMO the minimum the crush would want to be is 30'. 20' is a bit short it will only hold 2-3 cows or 3-4 stores

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭Jb1989




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭limo_100


    sorry I ment from the width of the creep area and taking in the crush would 20ft be wide enough 15ft creep area 2.5ft crush 2.5ft walkway or is every by hung very tight at that? I agree with you 30ft on the length is required



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    You will need 3' plus for walkway if you are puttin in a step along the crush. My step in another shed is 18" approx and 2'minimum beside it if you intend cattle to walk back along it. As well if cattle oens cone back onto walk way and crush you need a bit of distance to stop them annoying you

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭limo_100


    I probably won't bother with a step maybe that will be an error. what distance is the width in total of your shed? if I went 22-23 ft and have it 15ft creep area 2.6ft crush and leave a 5-6 ft walk area that can then be used at the end of a batch to run the cattle back the way they came. I would be hoping to put a crush box at the end of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,800 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    18ft here from the middle pillars to inside of the wall. Crush is 30" internal. Plenty of space for the tractor in the creep.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Smashing job limestone, I have something similar any my biggest issue is same as you may have, cattle won't want to go up the chute as they can't see an escape route, if my advise is any use ideally they'd be able to see daylight as they run up the chute. I'd be widening that small door the whole way to the right if its possible, have a gate inside a sliding door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭limo_100


    anyone on here use grasstec to design a handling facility they seem to do a great job in fairness



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Thry also charge a great price. It might oay in a dairy situation where cows ate in andbout of a yard every day ornin a substantial beef operstion where flow of stock is important.

    I got a quote the time I was looking for PP. They wanted double the amount thevlad I got charged. As well.of thete was an objection they wanted extra to handle it as well as costs involved. My man is just charging for costs involved

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭lmk123


    I priced them as well just to see, roughly double what the other 2 quoted me, did it myself in the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    it’s one job that pricing shouldn’t really come into it. Depending on a farmers age, it could there for up to 50 years of their farming life.

    So the job needs to right and that includes safety at top of the list followed closely by being a one-man/woman band when it comes to putting cattle through it.

    So saving a few hundred but not getting the job ya want is not helpful. That said, paying top dollar doesn’t guarantee top quality either but it’s important to see their work/get feedback from others etc.

    getting the planning right will be the best money you’ll spend on the project.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Its more than a few hundred, as there is an observation to be dealt with it would be 3k+ at this stage.

    The shed I wanted is similar to an existing shed. If I remember right they wanted 5-600 before they ever came out. Present lad lookedvfor nothing until it was goingninnfor planning. Present shed works for a one man operation so this one shoukd as well

    You coukd make the same case getting a house design, its posdibly a 50 year plus use. You can get a Dermot Bannon type designer who will charge 30-50k or more and add bells and whistles that might add 50-100 to the project.

    Or you can get.onebof the many lads that draw them up for 4-7k. You have cut your cloth to what you have.

    If I had the time I would have done what @limo_100 andd and drawn it up myself. I did it before. I just did not have the time

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭lmk123


    it was me that drew it. On the whole architect thing people are better off without the big expensive architect. I’ve do foundations for a house next week, 26 external corners, nearly got a migraine doing a sketch today for it, 4 flat roof sections and 4 A roof’s, people take on an awful lot of unnecessary expense, a lot to be said for a nice size square 2 storey house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    that’s grand for fellas that know a bit themselves. I did the plans for a 4 bay suckler shed myself in 2018. But I went and looked at an awful lot of other sheds and picked the best of them and went from there.

    Some lads either don’t have the time or the confidence to do it themselves and just want the job done on a turn-key way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There is a lot of good lafs out there for fairly simple beef operation sheds. This lad was one if them but I knew exactly what I wanted. He is going up a bit in price but Grasstec were out of the ball park.

    Ya some.hose designs and sizes are gone crazy. Both of mine build bunglows, slightly fancy but not huge 180-200 sqM.

    Two stories gone messy, with scaffolding concrete floors up stairs etc

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭Grueller




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    They may not need them but most are doing them.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    I'd disagree. When I was building I asked and was told very few are doing it nowadays. Went with trusses then cos of the span



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭limo_100


    only reason I asked about these is I was trying to squeeze a crush in at t he back of my creep area of my slatted shed. I was trying to square a crush with just 8ft of space the most I could go. So decided against this idea now and am thinking of doing it expanding my current yard, it is close by the shed but it’s very awkward to get to from to he shed. My shed is ends at the back wall of the crush now I’m think to remove the back wall and move it out into a garden and bring it in line with the shed. Only other issue is I would have to leave a roadway clear between the two and also my shed is a lot higher than the yard so would be about 3-4 lower of a drop so few awkward situations there to be dealt with. Also it will be an outside yard



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Tomjim


    I applied for a grant for fencing in the December tranche. The application is coming up as RASS on the website.

    What does this mean?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭dmakc


    You're at the most important stage where they rank the applicants, think they cut off the bottom 20-40% depending on the scheme



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭limo_100


    I'm applying for a tams grant for a weighting scales think the reference cost is 1400 is that just for the load bars or is it also including the display screen? just that someone told there two separate grants for both parts but I find that hard to believe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Also including the display. I only put in the claim 2 weeks ago for a new one that I got.

    If it’s a scales attached to a mobile crush then the crush is a separate application to the scales, maybe that’s where that person got confused.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭limo_100


    I’m not sure I I’m putting in an application for a mobile crush, scales and a head scoop I think that covers all the bits I need. Also I was told to put in for an Eid reader as it’s a very good grant on them get it handy enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Exactly what I did myself last year.

    They will be three separate items on the one application.

    Whenever you do buy them make sure whoever you buy it from invoices each item individually on 3 separate invoices. It’s the simplest way of doing it for making your claim. Also make sure your full name and address matching your name and address on Agfood is shown on each invoice and the invoice for the crush has to have the length of the crush included on it as well.

    I had to go back to where I purchased and get invoices amended to reflect this as they used the very common shortened version of my name which wasn’t acceptable as it didn’t match Agfood and the length of the crush wasn’t in the description.

    You will also be asked for a copy of your bank statement to show the payment matches the invoices.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,800 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Might be no harm to stick in for a leg hoist aswell be handy for the odd lame one and they aren't awful dear. Sorry I didn't get it on mine.



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