Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Putting aside the use of slave labour in their solar manufacturing plants as recently reported on by rte investigation

For every watt of solar China continues to built equivalent amount of coal burning capacity as backup

There are massive attempts at greenwashing and plain propaganda but they still have a coal plant built per week

We are not much better in Europe by backing up renewables with gas

Solar has 10% capacity factor in Ireland over a year, if we do the same that’s alot of burning stuff as backup for the 90%

Seriously- Europe/UK sometimes just make it so easy for those American rednecks to slate us - what an own goal

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15555667/How-Britains-Nato-envoy-55-having-undiplomatic-relations-29-year-old-Italian-PA.html

rfk is not worried about Trump stripping the epa of its powers.

As much as I agree with your sentiment, you're skirting dangerously close to some final solution type thinking there.

You think the world would be a better place if Trump supporters no longer existed.

Nazis thought the world would be a better place if Jews were dealt with in a similar means.

A lot of Russians think the world would be a better place if Ukrainians no longer existed.

All these people are living on earth in their own subjective version of reality forged from where they grew up, things they were exposed to in their family home, their culture, their country, everything.

The moment we basically start saying 'the world would be better if X group were exterminated' we start to lose our humanity. I'm completely non religious (anti religion, in fact) so IMO it's the only thing we have really.

Not sure if you've read much into the philosophy of determinism but the older I get the more I'm starting to agree with it.

Saying that, I can't wait to see all these Trump **** locked up for life when the purge eventually happens over there.

You kill the ideology, not the man.

There'll be MAGA after Trump, regardless of how he meets his demise. A violent death only entrenches the believers, might even create more believers and makes it all that easier for the next guy to tighten the grip.

Look at Charlie Kirk. A lot of people never heard of TPUSA before his murder. Now his wife is at the helm, her ideology if far more emboldened than his and they've probably increased their support.

When Trump's policies don't work and the common man falls deeper in to debt and despair, they'll look for a new messiah. If the Democrats have any intelligence, they'll be waiting in the wings with that Messiah and a manifesto that actually helps those people.

Kill the ideology. Not the man

So what? I'd rather see pro-Trump people on this thread than have it 100% "We hate Trump" posts which get very repetitive and frankly boring. I want to understand why people still support him and his less known backers. I want to understand what the Trump voter mindset is. Yet people seem to want to hound those folks off the thread immediately (often for likes) and refuse to debate with them. It happens a lot on Boards to be fair. Calling a lad a traitor...I don't know.

I'd rather see pro-Trump supporters on this thread too. I actually cannot recall a poster who was one that made relevant points in defence of what he does. Instead, we get this mealy-mouthed criticism, followed by a lazy both-sides comment or some absolutely irrelevant BS that has nothing to do with anything. I'd happily debate anyone who debates in good faith, but I bet you can't point me to a Trump supporter who will.

And they aren't being hounded off boards, they simply cannot either

a) back up what they say and therefore stop posting because they get called out on it or

b) spiral to a point where they get banned.

The fact remains that supporting Trump in this day and age where Americans are getting murdered on the streets, civilians are getting murdered on the sea and peoples' rights are getting trampled on is a tough job.

So, either toughen up and take the grief that goes with that, or power off. Not my fault or that of Boards if they cannot or will not defend the indefensible.

The real problem with politics is voter apathy. MAGA itself and the fascism it subscribes to are obviously massive problems but the root cause is simply people willingly voting for their own misery and poverty.

The 2010-2015 coalition government here in the UK willingly and eagerly implemented cruel austerity measures which have been linked to over 100,000 deaths. Among other things, they shed 21,000 police officers. Come 2019, Boris Johnson is promising several things to "level up" this country. Chief among them is a pledge to hire 20,000 new police officers. Nobody cared about the incongruity. They just gave him a massive landslide.

People always get the government they deserve. Always. If you create incentives for politicians to behave badly then that's what they'll do.

I disagree. I think it's completely true.