Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

What do you think would happen if every non citizen who pays less tax than is their share of government expenditure leaves the country?

"Far more deserve"... it's not a league table with a relegation zone. It's a binary. There are rules and procedures. They got turned down, they should go.

RTE("THE Truth Matters") News late to the party.

Culleton failed to appear in Irish court on drugs charges in 2009

When asked by RTÉ News if Mr Culleton had any interactions with law enforcement either in Ireland or the US prior to his dealings with ICE, she indicated that she had just become aware of a claim around an incident in Ireland.

"This is the first time that we are hearing about that," she said.

Ms Okoye said the claim related to a warrant issued in Ireland in April 2009.

But she noted: "Mr Culleton has been in the States since March 2009 and will not be aware of any warrant that happened after he came to the United States."

She added: "A warrant is not a conviction, a warrant is not a criminal entry, so I will leave it at that until I understand the specific facts of the case."

"Mr Culleton has been in the States since March 2009 and will not be aware of any warrant that happened after he came to the United States."

Pull the other one. He would have been aware, his family would have informed him, and did he really think nothing would have arisen from missing court dates? And it seems as well as not being honest with the Irish people, he's kept his lawyer in the dark about his past as well.

Liveline weren't letting a little thing like the truth stand in the way of their agenda. Today's programme completely ignored the accusations against Seamus. They should have shown due diligence, before jumping on the bandwagon.

It just feels like this is a fantasy narrative — this whole idea that you can't say anything other than immigration is awesome or you get shot down. It's just completely untrue. Who shoots you down for saying that? Starmer said immigration needs to come down, our own government here has said immigration numbers are too high. There is literally no critical mass of people in politics here or in the UK for that matter who aren't in support of some form of strengthening of immigration control.

Ratcliffe isn't being "shot down" because he didn't say everything is awesome and he isn't being shot down because he said immigration was too high or needed to be controlled. He is being criticised because he used the term 'colonised' which has very specific connotations and typecasts migrants as being part of some organised effort to invade the UK. He is also being criticised for the fact that he's a massive feckin hypocrite too, for that matter.

Brexit failed because it's little more than another manifestation of the failings of Right wing politics, which when it comes to power and policymaking has proven on multiple occasions that it's like a dog chasing a car. It's great at barking and chasing, but doesn't know what to do once it gets the car.

100% correct. I was there when the envelope was opened.
There are 2 places in the same town with a very similar address, one is The XXX, the other is XXX Close.
The envelope went to the address typed in the letter, the postman did not make a mistake. Either the family gave the wrong address or someone in Welfare put the wrong one in.

What has emerged about that Culleton lad after he was championed by our national broadcaster and nearly all major media outlets is hilarious.

Hopefully they have done a little bit more due diligence on the South African lady that has been served a deportation order.

They couldn't control themselves thinking they had some hit piece. Hilarious.

I had uncles who moved to the UK and got jobs on sites in the 1960s with no leaving cert . They both bought nice houses and raised families.

The lady was selling stuff online to make money, not as a lifestyle choice. She was supplementing her husbands income to make ends meet . One child, council house. The husband was working all the hours he could. Really nice family.

In the space of 50 years, England changed from a land of opportunity to a s#ithole. I was shocked. People couldn't get ahead despite doing all the right things and had no hope of ever owning a house . No future.

I just thought that might give context for the current malaise in the UK.

"Update 12th February

We are relieved to share some good news: the family’s deportation date has been delayed for 4 weeks, which gives them more time and hope."
https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-oyekanmi-family-due-to-be-deported-on-12-february

From the Gofundme of that SA/Nigerian family who were due to be deported. Theres only one way this goes and thats that they're staying permanently.

How on earth is it fair to make decisions like this based on how many people are willing to deliver a letter for you? We either have a fair rules based system or we have a popularity contest.

I'm genuinely impressed how they managed to have entire segments on stuff like this and the housing crisis without mentioning it. Same with News talk.

If big Jim was making his comments in the 60s, it would have been directed at your 2 uncles.

Even now since he didn't clarify I imagine he means the Irish too.

In the space of 50 years, England changed from a land of opportunity to a s#ithole.

Ah, I was over frequently in the 80s, life was absolutely bliss under Saint Maggie. She was a great friend of the Irish.

The odd building exploded and there was one or two industrial squabbles.

But apart from that it was all brilliant.