US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

I'm not interested lad.

Can smell you a mile away.

Nobody's "excusing" anyone.

Sinn Fein have stated that they opposed the 90 billion bill because it wasn't going towards humanitarian purposes. I don't agree with their position, but I understand it.

Donald Trump wants Russia to win because there's more in it for him if it does.

These positions are not the same no matter how much you try to make them out to be. Nor does it translate into the Shinners or "tHe lEfT" supporting Russia.

Agree

two cheeks of same arse Iran and Russia are, and they are quite open about their alliance against democracy, my discussion with Tony was over this comment of his which as I pointed out to him is bullshit

I’m gonna leave it there, some people are not able to admit being wrong, might be a function of age or a blind spot for a political party who are becoming indistinguishable from MAGA

Judging by the stuff moving east, the missile program will be dismantled consensually or by force, in the next month or so.

Well some are only itching for a war. Hopefully a deal can be reached because as we have seen with Iraq and Afghanistan a war would likely be another disaster for the region

I think an agreement similiar to what i outlined would be a fair compromise. Do you agree vswr?

With the Epstein files, a protracted war in the Middle East would be an ideal distraction.

In an ideal world what you outlined might work. In reality, you would need to undo over 50 years of policy, blood and hatred. So it's a no go.

Even though you can delve into the back story for over a century (centuries if you fancy heading down the Ottoman route)… one of the crux arguments is, Iran has a policy to destroy the state of Israel. The west has a policy for Israel to exist. Until that gap is bridged, that, and all periphery arguments will remain.

Iran have a publicly stated long term goal to get rid of the state of Israel, since the late 70's.

A threat Israel took so seriously that they were the largest supplier of weapons and military equipment to Iran for the best part of a decade. Supplying up to 80% of Iranian military needs.

Iran have called for the destruction of the Israeli regime just as Israel has called for the destruction of the Iranian regime.

Using a limited aerial campaign to attack camps, weapons caches, staging points and launch sites, against pretty much a clandestine group that uses gorilla war tactics is completely different to a sustained attack on manufacturing and defence locations.

The Yemen strikes were also performed from a lot of already in theatre aircraft. Currently the US are shipping in fighters and support aircraft daily. There is pretty much a continuous airbridge between the US/Germany/Middle East at the moment.

Israel is the only country saying that they want the end of Israel. Palestinians accepted Jews when they fled Europe in the 1940s. Israel now uses any straw as a justification for their slaughter and genocide just like they facilitated October 7 so that they could eradicate Gaza and the West Bank.

I mean, if you even took one look at Iranian state media, there is rarely a day goes by that they don't have some sort of propaganda on the destruction of Israel.

British Palestine did, yes. Under the supervision of the British, and under UN mandate (there was actually Jewish and Arab insurgencies in the region at the time). Surrounding Arab nations were never happy to Jewish people coming into their lands, even before Israel becoming a state.

There was a civil war that started the day after Israel was declared a state, and subsequently led to the Arab Israeli wars…. so to say it's been a jovial affair is not true.

I'm pretty certain that wouldn't lead to peace in the current climate.

which is now full circle to my original statement:

one of the crux arguments is, Iran has a policy to destroy the state of Israel. The west has a policy for Israel to exist. Until that gap is bridged, that, and all periphery arguments will remain.

Just like today, the only country never consulted about their land is Palestine. Iran has no serious intention of attacking Israel whereas Israel wants to put Iran in a position that it cannot defend itself just like Lebanon. Iran wants justice for Palestine and defence against Greater Israel's colonialism.