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Old RTE listings

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,633 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The titles are intriguing…

    Songs for Dreaming: Music for Rebels.

    Surrounded by Water No.2 A Life in the Ocean Wave

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,417 ✭✭✭cml387


    Probably too expensive.

    I remember that BBC or ITV programmes listed in the RTE Guide were given the accolade "A BBC (or ITV/ITV region) Production". American TV programmes didn't get that addendum.

    The Good Old Days was a filler, it seemed to move around the schedules randomnly. In fact if you follow the listings, scheduling seemed a bit haphazrd in those years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭George White


    That A BBC TV production or A Border Production thing was something you'd get in the Radio Times and TV times, for independent companies (ie a Paul Jackson production for BBC North) or non-British broadcasters (ie RTE shows on BBC, CBC shows, RAI, TF1, etc). And it's always weird cos sometimes you would get American productions get billed that way.

    E.g. Roots and other David Wolper shows were billed as a 'David Wolper Production', Titus Productions' Pueblo (ABC, 1973) and Holocaust (NBC 1978) were billed as Titus Production, and I often wonder was it a contractual thing.

    Occassionally, you'd get CBS or NBC documentaries billed as an NBC production.

    Laugh-In was always billed in Radio Times as an NBC production.

    US independent companies

    ABC

    The Flintstones (1960s, billed as 'a Hanna Barbera production' in reruns)

    The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde (1968 - 'A Dan Curtis/CBC co-production')

    F Scott Fitzgerald and the Last of the Belles (1975 - 'for Titus Productions')

    The Miss Piggy Show (1983, 'a Henson production')

    The Christmas Toy (1983 - 'A HENSON ASSOCIATES production')

    Pueblo (1973 - 'for Titus productions')

    Roots (1977-1979 - 'A David Wolper Production')

    The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau (1968 - 'Wolper Productions')

    The World About Us - Following the Wolf (1975 - 'A Peace River Films production')

    David Bowie - Glass Spider (1988 - 'A Tall Pony Production')

    NBC (drama/animation)

    Laugh-In (1968-1972 - 'A Schlatter/Friendly production for NBC')

    Pinter People (1969 - 'Potterton Productions Inc')

    The Wonderful World of Disney (1970s - 'A Walt Disney Production')

    The Roman Holidays (1970s, 'A Hanna-Barbera production')

    The New Fred and Barney Show (1970s, 'A Hanna-Barbera production')

    The Special London Bridge Special (1973) was billed as 'a Winters/Rosen production', and not billed as a film.

    Holocaust (1978 - a Titus production)

    The Martian Chronicles (1980 - 'A Charles Fries production' - a genuine BBC copro)

    Moviola (1980 - A David Wolper/Stan Margulies Production)

    The Legend of Walks Far Woman (1980 - a Roger Gimbel production)

    The World About US: Wild America - The Predators (1977 - 'a Stouffer films production' - Attenborough dubbing Robert Redford)

    The Second Bill Cosby Special (1969 - A Campbell-Singer-Cosby production)

    Barbara Mandrell (1979-1982) - 'A Krofft production'

    CBS

    The Amazing Howard Hughes (1977 - 'A Roger Gimbel production for EMI Television Programs')

    Tarzan - Lord of the Jungle (1978 - 'A Filmation cartoon')

    Joey and Redhawk (1978, 'A Daniel Wilson production')

    Kenny and Dolly -a Christmas to Remember ( 1984- 'an RP production', partly set in the UK)

    A Claymation Christmas Celebration (1988, 'A Wil Vinton Production')

    Meet the Raisins (1989, 'A Wil Vinton Production')

    Superman's 50th Anniversary (1988, A Guber-Peters Production)

    Perry Como's Spring in San Francisco (1983 - 'A Roncom production', like all the other Como shows)

    Kenny and Dolly -a Christmas to Remember ( 1984- an RP production, partly set in the UK)

    The World About Us: National Geographic - Dr Leakey and the Dawn of Man (1968 - Wolper Productions)/The Hidden World (1968)/Grizzly (1968 - Wolper Productions)/Miss Goodall and the Wild Chimpanzees (1968 - Wolper Productions)/Monkeys, Apes and Man (1971 - Wolper Productions)/Man of the Masai (1972 - Wolper Productions)/Strange Creatures of the Night (1972 - Wolper Productions)

    The American West of John Ford (1972 - A Bob Banner Associates Production)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭George White


    Channel 4 used to always bill independent production companies, often non-British ones too.

    They only ever did it with American companies very scattershot, so you wouldn't get Cheers or Hill Street Blues billed that way, but you would get it with Oprah or Showtime at the Apollo or Biography.

    C4 listings in the TVTimes until about 1990 seem to make a distinction between US shows as imports and shows that are foreign pickups but were either co-funded or treated like C4 originals, billed as 'A ___ production' like all other c4 programs, but not like (most of) the US imports or repeats.

    So, technically

    Tanner '88 - A Darkhorse Television for HBO/c4

    Two NBC shows get this treatment, weirdly. C4's Letterman showings and Marco Polo - an RAI production.

    Other non-network shows

    Theresa at the Palace - A Bavaria Atelier Production

    Anne of Green Gables - A Sullivan Films Production (CBC/PBS)

    Tanner 88 - A Darkhorse Television Production

    Penn and Teller Go Public -A KCET Production

    Isaura the Slave Girl/Dancin' Days/Dance with Me -TVGlobo

    A Fortunate Life - A PBL production for Channel 4

    Empress Wu - An Asia TV Production

    Daemon -A Children's Film Unit production

    David Letterman - an NBC production (mentioned already)

    Fortunata and Jacinta - an RTVE production

    Durrell in Russia - a Primedia Production

    Marco Polo - a RAI production - shown on NBC in the States.

    Loriot

    The Orchestra

    Oprah Winfrey

    Chateauvallon

    Hemingway

    Quo Vadis

    Overdrawn at the Memory Bank - (AN Atlantis/American Playhouse production)

    A few other American Playhouses for PBS were billed as American Playhouse productions.

    CBS miniseries Chiefs seems to have been a C4 OR ITV production. Billed as a 'Paramount production' in its C4 RERUN, but actually a coproduction between New World/Highgate and it seems London films.

    Showtime At the Apollo listed as a Bob Banner production for c4. Syndicated but shown on WNBC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    @George White I think there was a law in the states up until recently that Broadcasters couldn't produce their own content and that movie production company could not own TV stations.

    This is why many movie studios have a TV production arm.

    Sadly this changed in the mid-2010 and often when I see An ABC/NBC/CBS Production at the beginning of a show I know its going to be a dud.

    Is this what you mean?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭George White


    Not quite. Stations did have in house production companies (ABC Circle, most famously, but CBS and NBC often made their own shows - both CBS and NBC had movie company wings in the sixties/seventies - ABC Films' various wings like Palomar Pictures and Selmur Pictures and CBS had Cinema Center Films) but they were forced to sell their TV distribution syndication companies in the 60s - ie the original ABC Films becomes Worldvision Enterprises).



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,497 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    CHRISTMAS EVE 1975
    RTE TELEVISION
    3.00—Christmas Matinee: Around the World Under The Sea. An exciting sea saga portraying the exploits of a group of scientists who undertake a perilous mission across the ocean floor in an area prone to volcanic eruption.
    4.50—Christmas with the Animals.
    5.00—The Three Musketeers; an animation version of Alexander Dutnas's classic story of medieval intrigue.
    5.55—An Baile Beag: Puppet adventures In a little' Irish village where preparations for Christmas are in full swing. Episode 3.
    6.00—The Angelus.
    6.01—News.
    6.10—PASSWORD.
    6.40—Bourke and Hogan Sing Christmas; Fr. Denis Bourke and Larry Hogan present their very own persona! and Christian view of Christmas.
    7.10—The Goodies and the Beanstalk.
    7.55—Nuacht.
    8.00—Take the Money and Run: The European Television premiere. A satirical comedy on life among the lawbreakers finds Woody Allen in and out of jail in various abortive attempts to make the. grade, and his fortune, in the approved fashion of gangland.
    9.30—News.
    9.40—FEACH.
    10.00—CHRISTMAS WITH THE BELLAMYS.
    10.30—Solemn Ceremonies for the Closing of The Holy Year from St. Peter's Basilica in Rome.
    11.05—The Story of Silent Night. Over a century and a ha!f ago, in the Austrian village of Oberndorf, a young curate named Joseph Mohr and a schoolmaster-organist named Franz Gruber wrote a carol which endures as possibly the most loved of all the songs of Christmas.
    11.50 approx.—Midnight Mass of the Nativity from St. Eugene's Cathedral, Derry. Celebrant and Preacher, Most Rev. Dr. Edward Daly, Bishop of Derry.

    CHRISTMAS EVE 1976
    RTE TELEVISION

    3.00—The Road to India: Leaving spring behind in Afghanistan, Gerrit and Daibhi's bus grinds through Kyber Pass and traverses the Punjab.
    3.30—White Christmas: Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye are the stars in an all-time favourite — a sentimental journey with love, laughter, music and song, and a true fairytale ending. 5.30—Massa Peter: A drama serial set in the Virgin Islands in the days of the slave trade. Episode 4: Tobita.
    6.00—The Angelus.
    6.01—News.
    6.10—Going Strong For Christmas; A gala occasion today, with the festive spirit to the fore. Our guests are from the Monkstown Old Folks' Club, and a special musical note will be sounded by a choir from the Tallaght Senior Citizens' Club. Resident artists Ann and Jim will also, of course, be performing. Some wise words from Jim Murray — about social services will be given.
    7.00—Three Godfathers. Part 1: John Wayne stars as an outlaw of the Old West — one of a trio of fugitive bank-robbers forced into the role of reluctant guardians following a poignant incident in the pitiless Mojave desert.
    7.55—Nuacht.
    8.00—Three Godfathers. Part II.
    8.55—News; Weather Forecast.
    9.05—Messiah: The Church of St. Ignatius in Rome is the setting for this performance of Handel's celebrated Oratorio. The New Irish Chamber Orchestra is conducted by Andre Prieur.

    11.25—Mass for Christmas Eve: From the Television Centre, Dublin, celebrated by Fr. William Fitzgerald.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Do you know if PASSWORD. was the UK or US version? @spurious

    Also you'd be very disappointed if you though you were getting the Godfather Part 2 :)

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭George White


    I think it was an Irish version



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭fran38


    Thank you for that. I remember watching the Three Godfathers on that Christmas Eve night. I was eight years old.

    Im trying to dig out a glimpse of a memory of a programme I saw on Christmas eve around then. It was stop motion but i dont think its An Baile Beag. I think it was on before an Evita concert. The Julie Covington version & not Elaine Paige.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,417 ✭✭✭cml387


    Week beginning 20 March 1967

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,417 ✭✭✭cml387


    Note the programmes for Good Friday. Except for some religous programmes, there were none.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,974 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Treated as A very solemn day alright - I remember in the 80s I bought a pair of jeans in the morning time but shops then closed around lunchtime on Good Friday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭George White


    Animaland - an attempt at a British Disney, from ex-Disney animator David Hand.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,497 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I don't know. I will have a look at other newspapers and see if anyone else gave more details. edit strangely, the Cork Examiner has slightly different details. 'Trom agus Eadrom' instead of 'Féach', for example.

    Post edited by spurious on


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,497 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Not finding anything it could be. Julie Covington was v big at the time but it's all 'Rock Follies' stuff. She only appeared on the Evita album, not in the stage show from what I am seeing. You're sure it was one of the Irish stations?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭fran38


    Yeah coz we only got the 'BBC aerial' in the mid 80s. I wonder was it an RTE effort? Anyway, don't want to derail this thread anymore. Cheers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    I didn't know Bailebeag was running that long. I can remember it from when I was very young, circa 78, 79, 80. The miniature buildings and vehicles looked great but I used to find the puppets unsettling, they all had the same expressionless glassy eyed look.

    Edit: turns out it was first shown in 1974.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/quin-films-baile-beag-turns-50-today-sophie-quin-nbqee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,417 ✭✭✭cml387


    Week beginning 27 March 1967

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,974 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    You’re not derailing - such queries are what keeps this forum and these type of threads going 🙂

    I checked one of the AI tools- it mentioned that she actively avoided TV from the perspective of Evita so there wasn’t an “evita” concert on TV starring her- this is where you might have seen her and when , on TV.

    • Other TV Work: During this era, viewers likely saw her singing on television in the acclaimed musical drama series Rock Follies (1976–1977), which featured her as a member of a fictional girl group. 

    As for your stop motion programme, can you give us any more detail on it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,974 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Could it be this?

    In the 1970s, RTÉ commonly aired Rankin/Bass stop-motion "Animagic" specials on Christmas Eve, with 

    Santa Claus is Comin' to Town (1970)

     being a prominent feature in that era. These classic animated specials, which also included 

    Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer

    , were staples of Irish festive television. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Year Without A Santa Claus was shown by RTE over Christmas of 83.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭fran38


    It was definitely Evita. I think the death scene as she sings 'Dont cry for me Argentina'. I think she was in her death bed?

    In terms of the stop motion memory, it was b&w (we had a colour tv) there was these miniature creatures hopping around with hand held weapons battling each other. Very vague I know. An 8 years old memory 49 years later 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭George White


    It sounds like it could be a Karel Zeman thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭George White


    Search - BBC Programme Index

    Another BBC crediting the production company credit - for (even rarer) a theatrical film no less, the Canadian documentary The Man who Skied Down Everest.

    Search - BBC Programme Index

    The CBS documentary Monsters - mysteries or Myth - billed as a A WOLPER TELEVISION/SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION co-production



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,417 ✭✭✭cml387


    Week beginning 3rd April 1967

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭George White


    RE:weird billings, though RTE didn't bill an ____ production' for US shows, they would bill some shows as an 'NBC Special' even though they weren't aired as that under that banner in America when NBC aired them, often as part of other series.

    "nbc special" - Search - Newspapers.com™

    For example Circus was actually an episode of the Dupont Show of the Week, the Beauty of Woman was also a Dupont show, the Living End an ep of World Wide 60, and Faces of Spain an NBC News special.

    Almost makes RTE appear to be an affiliate of NBC.

    From a Munster Tribune - 'Circus -

    This is another NBC Special and these presentations rarely disappoint even the most blase watcher.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,417 ✭✭✭cml387


    Week beginning 10th April 1967

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭George White


    Discovered that while the UK turned them down, RTE did show the ABC Profile specials The Woman I Love (1972, Richard Chamberlain as Edward VIII) and the Raymond Burr ABC Popesploitaiton special Profile: A Man Whose Name was John , primo RTE tat.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,417 ✭✭✭cml387


    Week beginning 17th April 1967

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