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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    Saw the video.. Wasn't that close at slow speeds… Looked liek he was more bored than me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    You make a good argument for getting rid of the Cycle Lane… You are saying it is not suitable in that area.

    I was saying the bus driver didn't expect a cyclist out in the middle of the road when there is a cycle lane available…

    You do make a good case how cycle lanes might be dangerous if in the wrong place…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    I have sympathy for the bus driver… There is a cycle lane and cyclist doesn't want to use it…

    There are paths, that is why we don't see people walking down the middle of the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,717 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Saw the video. Close pass. Most likely deliberate as he had room to move out of the cycle lane. Driver looked bored and looking for trouble, much like yourself.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    There is a cycle lane and cyclist doesn't want to use it…

    What does that tell you (and genuinely think about it!)? Why would someone deliberately want to place themselves in moving traffic rather than use that cycle lane?

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    There is a cycle track for some of the video but there is also a Cycle and Bus lane, more commonly referred to as a bus lane. The cycle track often has parked buses, turning vehicles, vehicles nosing out into traffic, other cyclists, pedestrians hoping down to get around other pedestrians. The Audi however had a driving lane that it didn't use, but could have and somehow this is the cyclists fault. That is some Orwellian, rules for thee but not for me, BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,376 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    What cycle lane are people talking about? There is no cycle lane on that stretch. There's a bus lane (clearly marked as bus + bikes) and some space on the left of the lane for buses to pull in.

    Screenshot 2026-01-14 at 13.38.48.png Screenshot 2026-01-14 at 13.39.02.png

    You can see the cyclist in the second screenshot is in a similar position to the one in the video and it should be obvious to anyone who's not mentally deficient why.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Ah! That's where it is. It's one of the worst sections of road to cycle in the city centre, IMHO. And I generally don't have an issue with cycling on the quays or around town. But that stretch is always full of buses parked up, pulling out, taxis dropping off, pedestrians popping out between parked vehicles. And the fact that it's just after the busy O'Connell Bridge junction always means a plethora of impatient drivers looking to get ahead and make up time.

    Possibly the worst place in the city to suggest a cyclist should 'move over to the left'.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What cycle lane are people talking about? There is no cycle lane on that stretch. There's a bus lane (clearly marked as bus + bikes) and some space on the left of the lane for buses to pull in.

    Ah ok - I was thinking it was in relation to a video heading along the stretch towards the Point.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭ARX


    Not me, and not involving a bike, but I was cycling down the Bray seafront last week when a young child ran out in front of a moving car. The driver reacted perfectly, standing on the brakes almost before the child left the footpath and bringing the car to a rapid stop from the low speed at which she was travelling.

    How many deaths in similar circumstances have happened that could have been avoided if the driver had been paying attention and driving at a safe speed?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,376 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Actually I just noticed there's another video now myself (the one with the Dublin bus and the stretch after Eden Quay). Still on the side of the cyclist there anyway 🙂 Another one I'd be happy to use if there weren't buses parked in it all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,717 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Sorry, late to the show, I was referring to the Bus/Cycle lane as a cycle lane in my particular posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Update on this, reported at the time to the taxi regulator. Good advise from members here including @magicbastarder and the seemingly now banned @AndrewJRenko that it was "The conduct, behavior of an SPSV driver" that I was reporting. After some back and forth with their compliance department for a number of weeks they accepted the complaint and asked for a signed statement. Sent that via email and case was then progressed to a solicitor firm on behalf of the NTA.

    Had a telephone conversation with the solicitor towards the end of Nov who was excellent and advised of the likely process. He had nothing favorable to say about the driver and wouldn't be surprised if he contested the case since in his experience they were a litigious collective.

    Received an update from the solicitor yesterday to say the driver was before a judge in the district court last week and had pleaded guilty to the charge (don't know what the exact charge was) and I would no longer be needed to give evidence. Driver had to pay a charitable donation and costs (don't know amounts) to avoid a conviction so I'll take that as a result as costs couldn't have cheap. Had a search but looks like district court minutes aren't published and are instead internal court records under the control of the presiding judge.

    Taxi regulator complaint process not too bad and could be all done online. Much more efficient than the garda rigmarole of having to wait for and give a statement in person for the garda to then have to hand write it. That seriously needs to change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Sounds like a good and encouraging result. Here's hoping it actually registers with the driver rather than just winds him up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    People are incredibly stupid and can't see past their nose. First driver is bad enough with the fog lights on a clear dry morning but overtakes coming into a red light junction and just about manages to get in front. 2nd driver is just a dumbass and tries the same with no where to go, ends up half way out in the next lane and then having to pull in before we get a green light to proceed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    fool was turning left anyway, what's the point of overtaking you!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,717 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    That was the clincher!!! They were turning left anyway! Didn't know fog lights in no fog were still a thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    It's not their fault, virtually all motorists are conditioned to believe they are more important on the road than an annoying cyclist.

    Even the most patient and tolerant drivers receive this conditioning daily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    the overtaking only to immediately turn off/pull in/join a line of traffic is so frequent and so stupid. People just lose their minds when they get stuck behind a cyclist "argh, I'm being slightly delayed, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me!"

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,725 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    What pisses me off is even when there's a small child in the mix people still pull this idiotic 'Must Get In Front' behaviour
    (yes this video is very mild in comparison to other situation…but the reality is you wouldn't overtake a car and do this)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Deluge of an evening in the latest storm and flood warnings but at least traffic was very light. Excuse the brake squeal as my discs are brutal in wet weather.

    Idiotic close pass by taxi driver in video below, squeezed between me and queuing traffic rather than wait 10 seconds for a clear road. Thought I was taking enough priority to prevent such moves. Left clip running and sped up to show he gained nothing, I caught up with him at traffic lights later and knocked on his rear panel as he was sitting at the crest of the bridge. Pulled up beside him then to see if he'd engage but not a peep and kept his distance thereafter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    That's classic car brain from some motorists. They're very brave when they think they're in a much bigger vehicle, have doors locked and can speed away from the scene. When they're actually called out on things when they've nowhere to hide they go pretty sheepish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭JMcL


    It shouldn't be. In my aging Ford Focus you can only turn on the fog lights when the full/dip beams are on by pulling the knob out. It then has to be pushed back in before the lights can be turned off. It's a simple, mechanical solution but not present on our newer family car with automatic lights



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭JMcL


    I had some dick pull that on me years ago when our youngest was still in the child seat out back (so well visible). He just HAD to get in front on a very tight entrance to a roundabout because, you know, he had places to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Where do they get these bellends, and worse….who gives these bellends actual taxi licences?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    my theory is that being on the road all day every day turns some people into bellends. Professional drivers come to regard the road as their kingdom and get unreasonably angry at anything that gets in their way. Bus drivers less so as I guess their income isn't so much affected by being delayed but some of them are pretty agressive too (Wexford Bus springs to mind - maybe they're being incentivised to be on time…)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Agree completely. We're all susceptible to it to varying degrees. I had one langer accelerate up the inside of me from the lights at the Donnybrook stadium junction into town this morning (you know the one where the road merges from two lanes to one lane) to pull in front of me so he could get one car ahead. I was conscious of being pissed off for the next few minutes. Slights that would otherwise wash off you like water off a ducks back in any other context seem much more deliberate when done in a car. It's even more bizarre because we're a nation obsessed with apologising for everything "oh, sorry" "no, go ahead" etc etc. But behind the wheel of a car, locked into the traffic grid system, rules imposed on us, freedom to move severely restricted… we become ass***es.

    And yet, what studies have been done as to driver behaviour, what manufacturers can do to lessen issues, what road designers can do, what education needs to be done etc. None. I'm convinced that half the anger towards cyclists is down to the fact that they're perceived as being unfairly free from car-caused traffic issues in a "they think they're so great don't they" kind of way. Definite vibes of that from so many conversations I've had with people. When you calmly talk through the issues - "yes but why does THAT bother YOU?" - it invariably comes down to that. You can even see it in the other thread on here that I'm not going back to, with the snide "wannabe tour de france cyclists" comments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭MangleBadger


    Descending from Bray Head into Greystones yesterday evening and a car overtook me into oncoming traffic. It wasn't super close but I was doing over 50km/h and it was pretty sketchy. And totally pointless when I'm going that speed anyway.

    Obviously I managed to catch him at the lights at the bottom which made it extra pointless. I asked him was it really necessary and his only response was "you're on a bike" and I should be hugging the side of the road.

    He also let me know that I was lucky he had his son in the car as otherwise he would teach me a lesson. Delightful gentleman.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Classy guy. I am convinced that this is a hang up from a freedom for consequences over the last few years. Be that consequence that he meets someone less polite than you who invites him to exit his vehicle or that the Gardai actually get enough staff that this could be viewed as a complaint that would be followed through on (despite what people think, his behaviour is illegal and would constitute a Section 5 under the Non fatal offences act which in theory could lead to a €1500 fine and up to 12 months in prison).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Its worse going up from the opposite direction Greystones to Bray in the morning. I'm pretty sure the speed limit there is technically 60kmph anyway? Regularly use it on my commute. Ironically had some Big Black Car driver get annoyed with me thinking about undertaking him when, having overtaken me he ended up slowing me down.

    It was a stupid idea and I didn't follow through. But the irony was, albeit delicious, completely lost on him.

    Invariably - I'd say 80% of the time - I'll meet most of the cars at the Lidl traffic lights anyway.



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