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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,310 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I think this had to happen. If Harris had been elected, the rot that has turned into MAGA would still have been there, waiting for some other way to erupt and create some other but similar catastrophic environment. It might have put it all off for a few years but all this Maga/racist/corruption was going to happen sooner or later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭Get Real


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/09/irish-man-seamus-culleton-ice-detention

    This detailed Guardian article says he arrived in 2009 (his own solicitor says so) Recession central for us. Headed over on a 90 day holiday during the recession. Loads were doing it.

    I'll preface the rest of what I'm about to say with this: I hope this all works out for Mr.Culleton and I do wish him well. And I do think ICE/Trump are mental.

    If you're going to do anything in life, where the consequences are potentially life changing. Or there's a potential for a clampdown, do not ever take a "sure it's grand" attitude.

    All works well. Until it doesn't.

    If I go to a country- be it the USA,Japan, Thailand, Canada, etc, on a holiday visa and simply stay on- surely, I'll have to know in the back of mind, something *could* go wrong, either a month, year or several years down the line. I'd have to accept that yes, I'm taking a risk, and willing to assume responsibility for taking that risk if things go wrong.

    If I decide not to declare income tax for a year, and Revenue don't look into it, I'll then go and do it a second year. A third year. And so on. I can't then decide to declare for the 5th year, and blame Revenue if they audit me for the previous few years. I'm the one that took the risk, and it worked out badly.

    Again, I hope it's solved. I condemn the conditions he's in. I hope he's learned his lesson and gets to live in America with his family. I don't think he did anything bad or anything criminal. But he broke the rules 90 days in. And it'd be naive to think you can build an entire life, and presume everything will always remain constant. It's terribly unfair on him. But it was always a possibility, as ridiculous as it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    Agreed. When I lived there over thirty years ago you might get detained for a few nights before being put on a plane.

    But then I drank in a bar with cops who'd turn a blind eye unless you were a danger to yourself, or offended the USA. I got a good grilling off them over the time sinead O'Connor didn't want the US anthem played before her gig.

    I'm glad I was out of there went she ripped up the popes picture.

    Month long detentions are purely a money making racket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    Ok, id have a bit of sympathy knowing he overstayed in 2009 rather than 2006. We ended up in Australia for the same reason but on a sponsorship visa.

    Id done the US when overstaying was actually an accepted irregular norm as long as you stayed out of trouble, but after 9/11 that irregular norm was over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,100 ✭✭✭✭kowloon




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    I’m sure there will be a rant from Trump about maxwell pleading the fifth.

    Even tho Trump himself has pleaded the 5th over 400 times himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    another brilliant article from the guardian - you can see clearly how independent news and media in America is being obliterated - America is turning into China from a freedom of expression perspective - once you silence the press there’s very little to stop a tyrant like Trump and MAGA

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2026/feb/08/washington-post-layoffs-democracy-trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    How is it unfair? Its the same rules that have been in place for years. He overstayed his holiday visa by over 20 years. He would have known there was a risk of being caught and deported, he won't even have been able to visit home for all that time or even leave the country because of it. Obviously after so long, his marriage and subesquent visa application last year will look suspect. His work visa isnt valid at all if its been found that he previously was here illegally for so long. I can't imagine any other country would just say "oh yeah you're grand, here's your permanent residency card" after that.

    Having said all that, absolutely no need to detain him for that long though. Is it because he has declined to be deported and is trying to fight his case from there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Ironically, this was in response to Trumps birther crap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,107 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Trump will not be making any rants about Maxwell. The last thing he wants is her not taking the 5th. The last action when he leaves the White House is to give her an amnesty

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,100 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    You can see how pissed off he gets when the crowd is laughing at him. It's like a villain origin story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    As he noted himself years ago when musing about killing people, a fair slice of his support looks unconditional. They will stick with him no matter what he does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    You wouldn't recognize fair and balanced if it kicked you up the arse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,626 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    No issue with the legality of the situation, but the message seems to be going out from the MAGA movement that immigrants are most unwelcome in the US - even ones with work visas.

    It's extraordinary…..one gets the impression they would be quite happy if their messiah Trump deported 10m or 15m people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    His work visa isnt valid though once it was discovered he had already been in the country for 20 years working without one. Its completely different from people who follow all the correct procedures to get their visa, myself included, which no one would have a problem with. Making the headline that a man with a valid work visa is being deported is totally burying the lede. It should read, man who lived and worked in the US illegally for 20 years is being deported. The fact that he suddenly decided to get married to a citizen and apply for a green card doesn't negate that.

    No doubt some people would like to deport all foreigners, but they would be an extreme minority, even among Trump supporters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,626 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    No, I'm saying that he was there on a tourist visa and overstayed his welcome. But the message from the legions of MAGA disciples on this story on social media this evening is that immigrants are extremely unwelcome in the US - they clearly don't want anyone going to the US, not even those with green cards and work visas. Their leader Trump could tell them he was deporting 25m people this year and they wouldn't bat an eyelid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭Widdensushi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    He declined to be deported, and chose to appeal his arrest, but I agree that theres no need to detain him for this long, and in those conditions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭somenergy


    To explain where you are i have a friend who totally buys in to the same cult they are more maga than trump

    They tend to rationalise, deny, or twist facts to protect the group's image, often driven by the "sunk cost fallacy"—the feeling that having already invested significant time, money, and relationships, it is too late to leave. 

    Think you took a hard right there or are u following certain traffic.

    Post edited by somenergy on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Another day, another crisis. This involves a soon to be opened bridge between Windsor, Canada and Detroit, US, financed entirely by Canada and owned jointly by Canada and the state of Michigan, which Trump once supported. The existing bridge was owned by a US billionaire who blocked American funding of a new bridge for years until his death.

    For the record, as if I have to say this: the highly popular provincial bans on US alcohol were a response to Trump’s tariffs against Canada; the US has a trade surplus with Canada on dairy products and a truly massive trade surplus on agricultural products overall, aided by a huge number of undocumented workers; and it may surprise you, dear reader, to learn that despite the claims made above, China is not about to end ice hockey in Canada.

    I feel like I’m living in a badly written novel.

    Post edited by Ardillaun on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    I know a guy who went from voting for Obama to joining the Trump cult. These days on political topics, I treat him like I would a deranged person on the street. There is no point arguing with him and risking an altercation that could spiral. I just smile, talk softly and change the subject.

    Post edited by Ardillaun on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Fully funded by the Canadian government, and he wants to be “fully compensated”…

    Even named after a Canadian hockey player.

    Yet even more mental instability on show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The case of the Irish national facing possible deportation was discussed on CNN last night. A conservative radio show host (show is called Seattle Red) Jason Rantz, when the presenter pointed out he was married, said "after 16 years".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,544 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    MAGA - it's the job of the Superbowl half time show acts to unify the country!

    Meanwhile, literally the man's whose job it is to unify the country...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    That “fair slice” is growing because there’s nothing stopping it- Trump is creating a Russian dictator model for America- the courts the justice dept, FBI, ICE and now major media outlets are all under his control or that of his friends like Amazon Bozo.

    Just like Russia, As long as the American people feel they’re being governed by a strong leader, and the dollars keep flowing into the right pockets, they won’t give a sh1t- they’ve shown an appetite for the drool that emanates from Trumps mouth and ass- that was their first mistake - then they did it again in 2024- showing that they were hooked on this b0ll0xolgy- no going back now - ICE will surround every voting centre in risk states ensuring traditional Democrat voters with a dodgy past will stay away from the interim elections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Jason Rantz has been a rightwing troll since before Trump was on the scene. He's been around probably since Limbaugh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    He was, there's footage of some event at Mar A Lago showing they were all watching it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trump support among one of his most loyal voting blocs, working class voters, is collapsing. His net disapproval with them is minus 9%. Trump won them by 14% in 2024.

    However Republicans still lead in this group in the midterms by 4%. This is a drastic fall on their 13% lead in 2024. It won't be enough to overcome a growing Democrat lead among third level graduates. Assuming Trump allows a free and fair election which is debatable.

    Last year, Harris won 57% of people with third level degrees. This used to be a big Republican constituency as recently as 2012. Reagan won it 60-40 in 1984.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    I don't know why people are focusing on the fact the guy overstayed his 90 days.

    The Guardian article on it is very clear:

    but, after marrying a US citizen and applying for lawful permanent residence, he obtained a statutory exemption that allowed him to work, Okoye told the Guardian. “He had a work-approved authorisation that is tied to a green card application,” she said.

    That is all that matters. He also says they faked his signature on documents, claiming he never agreed to be deported despite what ICE says.



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