Orange is the new Burke

How does one find out if EB's teachers licence has been renewed yearly since he was fired by WHS? An initial google for info says it has to be done on a yearly basis with the Teaching council which issues the licences.

Given that he has not been a practicing teacher at WHS for several years now, has the Teaching Council been asked for a renewal each year by him in order to fulfil what he claims he has been doing each time he shows up at WHS: turning up for work there as a teacher?

Has he been seeking and getting a renewal of his teaching licence just as a matter of course from the teachers licencing body sine he was fired without that body taking a close look at the validity of any such application from him?

Did anyone end up turning up to the school?

Irish Times podcast today…… "no end in sight".

https://www.irishtimes.com/podcasts/in-the-news/what-next-for-enoch-burke/

He won't care where they are from as long as they have his idealogy. I dont think he has any interest in his local town or indeed any interests at all outside teaching and religion.

Ref any question about EB's latest high court action on the panel; Did Enoch Burkes latest appeal against the membership of his sacking appeal panel go ahead in the high court, the online answer I got to the question is:

Yes, Enoch Burke's latest appeal against the membership of his sacking appeal panel has gone ahead in the High Court. Two members of the disciplinary appeals panel have resigned, which has led to a temporary halt in the proceedings regarding Burke's dismissal from Wilson’s Hospital School. The High Court has agreed to postpone the hearing to allow for further developments in the case. www.rte.ie

Edit: According to the Journal.ie, EB's latest appeal is to stop the Disciplinary Appeal Panel from issuing its findings about whether he was fairly or unfairly dismissed by Wilsons Hospital School and wanting to prevent the panel from holding any more meetings. Presumably the Burkes wouldn't object the the member and former members being called by the High Court to testify before it in relation to EB's complaint of bias against him.

Though I think it unlikely to be the decision of the panel, it would be a kick in the face to EB and his family if they were to find that the panel had decided that WHS had improperly fired EB from the job he had there scuppering his bias complaint against the panel.

The ball is back in the Burke family court again to see what complaint they come up with now. No membership quorum = no panel to sit for a hearing.

He had to show belief of proof of bias, not proof of bias.

Because they have resigned is the finding now null and voil

There is no recommendation as the panel wasn't allowed and still isn't allowed meet after initially meeting.

Although the panel has disbanded, the Judge after saying that finalising the DAP is of critical importance in the fastest time possible allowed the non sensical injunction against the 3rd member continue, thus preventing the formation of the new panel until this is dealt with.

Not only that, it was the same Judge who let Burke out of prison to deal with the Appeal although Burke objected, but he had no problem doubling the time Burke requested for this ongoing nonsensical injunction.

Like I said previously, the President of the HC needs to have a meeting with the Judges giving this cretin unlimited rope.

Why did the panel members resign.

No idea, they invoked legal privilege.

Burke argued the appeal was not conducted in line with Fair Justice, apparently he wasn't allowed cross examine other witnesses. Which is absurd, it's an Appeals Panel not a court of law.

This is a win for EB

Depends how you quantify a win. Burke remains self locked up in the Joy.

The DOE, BOM or the Union may no longer be able to get enough volunteers to setup a panel. Therefore Burke remains in the Joy - by his own choice of course.

So if you think that is a win, I would hate to see a loss.

I suppose for the time being the school wins, as they longer have to hire security to deal with the creep.

This is similar to Donal Trump, I do not like this judges ruling he must be biased he needs to be impeached

Good lad. 🙄

It is entirely possible that the legal advice given to the DAP members who resigned accorded with this and that they realised that Burke had a reasonable case against them based on the conduct of the meeting, and they decided to resign rather than have the details trashed out in public.

I doubt it's that complicated. They are volunteers with no skin the game, they are not legally required to be there nor are they legally required to make a recommendation, they can leave or resign at any moment without explanation or prejudice.

They agreed to sit for at best a couple of sessions in a relatively simple process, at no point did they sign up to be dragged into the HC and incur the time wasting and costs associated with it.

Burkes injunction was demanding they meet again so he could cross examine witnesses, I imagine the protracted proceedings would have been around the issue of whether he was allowed do that or not and could have extended to many months.

What volunteer needs that absolute nonsense in their lives if they are under no obligation to put up with it.

I see 2 likely scenarios, although this case is so bizarre it's hard call it.

They will struggle to fill another panel, although that could see the Dept. or Union dragged into the HC. But could well drag it out of another year or more.

The panel meet, refuse to hear an appeal and rubber stamp the schools decision, moving it onto the WRC. (Best Scenario)

It's worth nothing that Burke seemed to be genuinely upset that the 2 members resigned and it definitely seemed to throw him a bit, so he asked for extended time. And it was granted it of course. 🙄

It's worth keeping in mind that there is probably no chance of a resumption of work for him at WHS whatsoever and that he, and his family, are intent on a bigger win, their desire to impose their particular biblical ethos on the school as it is from a different branch of the Christian faith.

I think you are giving them too much credit thinking they are planning a bigger win. All the evidence so far is that they are always fixated on current events. Id say if he was released again and offered €1 billion to stay away from the school he would be back there again in the morning. He wants to go back teaching in the school with all tolerance of trans students eliminated from school policies. There is no big plan.

The elders of the family have been the guiding lights of their children for years. The WHS has been a small front for them with only a minor role in support for EB there. I agree with your assessment that he would refuse any offer from any quarter to stay away from WHS and that's because he's got a fixation, through his parents education of him, on the importance of religious morals of the Evangelist kind in society in general. There's no way in hell that WHS would be minded to make him an offer of employment as a teacher there. He burnt down that bridge as a matter of course. Call it collateral damage.

The parents have been working away for years now to make what they see as important changes for Irish social society, to act as a brake on how our society has been changing now in declining to accept organised religious control of our society's morals. They are still producing and publishing videos about hospitals been responsible for the deaths of people they know, though not related to them, as part of their ongoing war with Irish social and cultural society in recent days. Apart from their court room rants against the judges hearing the appeal cases EB brings there, they ain't been stepping through the WHS gateway with him to end up being hauled in front of the judges like he was. They know that would tie them down like EB is, their freedom of movement curtailed, allowing them to keep sprouting EB's lines without risk as they are outside the courts getting free coverage from the media and the alternative form of "journalism" by self-seekers. Call it what it is, a fresh attempt by people fixated with organised religion to rule the roost here in Ireland.

Based on the evidence it appears that they may well have botched the the handling of the hearings

But it’s conjecture either way

If your opinion is based on evidence it's not really conjecture is it?

Either way it's moot. A new panel will have to be formed, if they can find people to do it.